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Generator Circuit #1310917
Thu May 16 2019 04:37 PM
Thu May 16 2019 04:37 PM
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Frank50  Offline OP
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Is the 6 volt generator circuit in a pre-55.2 Chevy truck Delco "A" or "B"? If you know which, please explain the difference.
I should probably know this already.

Thanks

Re: Generator Circuit [Re: Frank50] #1310929
Thu May 16 2019 06:31 PM
Thu May 16 2019 06:31 PM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Offline
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All the 6V and 12V General Motors charging systems I'm aware of are "A" circuits. The difference is where the windings of the Field coils get their ground. In an "A" circuit, a slight voltage (about 1/2 volt) generated by the residual magnetism of the armature is picked off by a field coil winding, and sent to the voltage regulator. There, it finds a ground by passing through two sets of points, the "current regulator" and the "voltage regulator". This field current causes the armature to develop more voltage by setting up a magnetic field in the generator housing. This voltage rise continues until either the current or voltage regulator points open and prevent the generator from damaging itself, or the battery. This point opening/closing cycle happens several times a second as either maximum current flow or voltage is produced.

A "B" circuit system has one end of the field winding grounded inside the generator housing, and the regulator provides voltage from the armature via the regulator wiring (not a ground) to make the field circuit operate. Once max output is reached in either current or voltage, the control points work the same way- - - -they're just interrupting the current flow to the field coils instead of opening and closing the ground path. Virtually all Ford generator/regulator systems and a lot of MOPAR systems use the "B" circuit.

To test an A circuit generator to see if it's been polarized properly, with the engine running at a fast idle, disconnect the "F" wire from the regulator and touch it to a good ground such as the regulator base. The generator should go into max output, controlled only by the speed of the pulley. To test a B circuit, disconnect the F wire and touch it to the BAT terminal. Do this only momentarily, and don't run the engine much above a fast idle while testing.
Jerry



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Re: Generator Circuit [Re: Frank50] #1310943
Thu May 16 2019 08:31 PM
Thu May 16 2019 08:31 PM
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Frank50  Offline OP
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Thanks Jerry.

Re: Generator Circuit [Re: Frank50] #1310953
Thu May 16 2019 10:04 PM
Thu May 16 2019 10:04 PM
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drdoug  Offline
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Next step beyond Jerry's good summary - if the generator needs to be repolarized (such as may happen after the battery has been disconnected or V regulator changed), the procedure is simple. Momentarily jumper the Bat and Arm (sometimes labeled Gen) terminals at the V regulator. That causes current to flow which will polarize the generator... but you probably already know that. Image from the old Delco 1R-117 attached; procedure in the lower right column.

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Re: Generator Circuit [Re: Frank50] #1310970
Thu May 16 2019 11:54 PM
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Re: Generator Circuit [Re: Frank50] #1311013
Fri May 17 2019 04:21 PM
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Frank50  Offline OP
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Thanks all.


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