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Work Shop Design #1310276
Fri May 10 2019 03:23 PM
Fri May 10 2019 03:23 PM
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Tony AK49  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 29
Alaska
Good Morning Stovebolters,

I'd like to hear input on what others think the basics of a workshop ought to be and what you think the best, realistically speaking, size works best.

Things that come to mind are Water supply (hot and cold), Air System, Welding room/space, lift system (2 post type), general work area/bench, small office space. 220V and 120V outlets. Size: a two or three car garage.

Have a great Friday!!
Tony

Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310286
Fri May 10 2019 05:31 PM
Fri May 10 2019 05:31 PM
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gumbi  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 124
Florence, TX
Check out garagejournal.com It's basically a forum going over these exact questions. Everyone post pics of their shop, ask questions on layout, how too's, etc. Great site for learning.

As for what works, just depends on what you need. As much as I would love to build out and expand into a larger space, I am stuck in a 2 car 20'x21'ish space. Have plugs every 4 foot along the walls. More over my work bench area including the plugs that integrate a usb slot for charging. A single 220 outlet for a 60 gal upright Ingersol compressor. Air management can be a whole topic of it's own. My mig welder runs off of 120 and is on a cart so I roll it around as I need.

I don't park in the garage. So one bay is always open for workspace while the other holds my '57. I make do with what i have. At times it can be a little cramped but workable. If I could, a 24x30'ish separate building would be built with a covered carport. One of these days maybe I'll get there.

Last edited by gumbi; Fri May 10 2019 05:31 PM.
Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310291
Fri May 10 2019 05:54 PM
Fri May 10 2019 05:54 PM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 18,597
Dellrose, TN
Bigger is always better, if you've got the room for it! I've outgrown my original 24 X 40 foot shop twice, and I'm still building on!
Jerry


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The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

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Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310300
Fri May 10 2019 09:20 PM
Fri May 10 2019 09:20 PM
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Mike B  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,719
Hughesville, MD
With a 16' ceiling you have the height to split that height and have the office above in the loft

Push your budget to the MAX for square footage ..AC, heat, compressed air system, and electric can all be easily added later, but it's hard to make the building bigger after the fact.

Try to separate the work area from the storage area so you're not working around finished vehicles.

Put the air compressor outside in a utility closet to keep the noise down.

Does your town/county limit the size you can build? Do you have enough space?

Mike B smile

Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310306
Fri May 10 2019 10:25 PM
Fri May 10 2019 10:25 PM
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Apache1  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 316
Whitwell, TN
I agree wholeheartedly, MAXIMIZE your square footage at all cost...you will NOT regret it.

Last edited by Apache1; Fri May 10 2019 10:26 PM.

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Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310325
Sat May 11 2019 03:13 AM
Sat May 11 2019 03:13 AM
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Wally / Montana  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,265
The Last Best Place
A friend has a shop where he can drive in, make a U-turn in his old truck and drive out front-first. My kind of shop!


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27 Years of Daily Driving. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310358
Sat May 11 2019 01:10 PM
Sat May 11 2019 01:10 PM
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moparguy  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 788
Watford City ND...
One Huge detail Tony may have to consider is ambient temperature. If his shown location is current (Alaska) that could mean a smaller, better insulated building with the compressor inside due to extreme temps outside. If that's the case a great read would be Lugnutz' shop research thread and construction thread here, and here, and here.

This is a very well documented "How To" on designing and building a shop with a ton of input from the members. If one wanted/needed a larger space it should be scaleable to most any size. The tips and suggestions would still apply.


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310460
Sun May 12 2019 03:24 AM
Sun May 12 2019 03:24 AM
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EdPruss  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,680
Longmont, CO
I end up doing most of my work outside including welding. Have to allow for seasonal temperatures, no paint in winter, weld anytime, etc. Tools and storage are inside. A concrete slab would be helpful, rolling tools on gravel is not the easiest. A long 220v extension cord and air hose are helpful. Make room around saw, mill, lathe for long or large pieces that need to be cut down.

Ed


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'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310476
Sun May 12 2019 12:03 PM
Sun May 12 2019 12:03 PM
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Tony AK49  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 29
Alaska
Anybody use the POLE BARN design for a shop build? Seems that'd be the best bang for the buck compared to most other types of construction. I like the high wall concept for office space and an exterior air compressor. Although I'm in Alaska currently, I'm migrating south (in a sense) to Michigan in July. There's a large barn on the property that's got the leaning tower of Pisa beat as angle's go. I discovered there's water and electric going to it already and will capitalize on that. The barn is coming down and a new shop will replace it. I'm thinking a 30' x 40' structure with three vehicle doors (2 for drive through capability) and a man door a throw in a few windows. I'd love to have a covered overhang off one side to work under and or sit and relax with a cold beverage and BBQ when the urge hits.

Last edited by Tony AK49; Sun May 12 2019 12:06 PM.
Re: Work Shop Design [Re: Tony AK49] #1310481
Sun May 12 2019 01:20 PM
Sun May 12 2019 01:20 PM
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showkey  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 437
Wausau WI
As mentioned Garage Journal has hours of reading on the topic.
Metal building have their own issues...........they are often the lowest cost per sqft...........but............have many flaws or design issues that must to dealt with. The big one is climate control........and the big climate issue is moisture control. By design metal building seem to have their own little indoor climate zone. Given the right conditions it can almost rain inside a large metal building.

With any building there’s is always zoning........so don’t over look it. Many areas restrict the type, size, height of out buildings.

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