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Woah! She’s slow. #1309591 Sun May 05 2019 01:51 AM
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Skidmarks Offline OP
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My 9 year project hit a major milestone today. I got her out on the open road for the first time.
1958 Apache 235/3 speed, stock wheels and tires.
At 45 mph she was screaming loud. I still had pedal left, but it sounded like it was winding out fairly high. I don’t have a tach, so not sure exactly how high.

I’ve seen threads about these trucks being slow, and I think it’s going to end up with getting a different rear end. I built the truck to be stock, but st 40-45 mph I’m worried about getting rear ended!

Anyone have some wisdom to share?


1958 Chevy Apache Fleetside/235/3 sp
Pictures at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=317454&id=855355703&l=0a0f773195
Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309601 Sun May 05 2019 02:45 AM
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I’ve got a 49 3/4 ton. It had a 5.14 gear in it. There were three ratios sold for these rearends. I swapped the pumpkin for a 4.10 and gained 6-7 mph. But I don’t know what you have in a 58. If it’s an Eaton HO52. It’s an easy swap. That axle was used from 47 to 1972.

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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309607 Sun May 05 2019 03:03 AM
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What series is your truck? Just saying "Apache" doesn't tell us much...it could be a 1/2, 3/4 or 1 ton.

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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309635 Sun May 05 2019 12:09 PM
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Sorry, it’s a 1/2 ton swb fleetside


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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309645 Sun May 05 2019 01:29 PM
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Yep, they sound like that. Screamin!!! Probably has a 3:90 gear in the rearend, get a tach and see what it says it's . You should be able to go 55/60 without any difficulty. These old trucks are not like the new ones quiet and comfortable. You drive these not ride in them.


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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309648 Sun May 05 2019 01:48 PM
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Yeah sounds like the darn pushrods are going to launch out of the hood!


1958 Chevy Apache Fleetside/235/3 sp
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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309655 Sun May 05 2019 02:15 PM
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....and the faster you get your rig going, the better the brakes need to be. I swapped the 4.11's in my rig for some 3.55's. " Good move" says my truck. Yes for a tach. 60mph at 2500 rpm.


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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309657 Sun May 05 2019 02:16 PM
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Are the valves adjusted properly? That has a big influence on how it sounds.


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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309667 Sun May 05 2019 02:55 PM
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Just for grins, take the fan off and make a highway-speed cruise for a few miles. You don't need a fan above 30 MPH, and I'll wager the engine won't sound half as stressed once the fan noise is out of the picture. Any engine speed below 2500-3000 RPM isn't going to hurt a good-condition 235, even if it is a little noisy.
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Re: Woah! She’s slow. [Re: Skidmarks] #1309702 Sun May 05 2019 06:52 PM
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The valves are good I checked them already. I just noticed that the pinion seal is leaking. I think the decision has been made.

Does anyone have suggestions on a good axle upgrade?

Last edited by Skidmarks; Sun May 05 2019 06:52 PM.

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