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Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309489
Sat May 04 2019 12:31 PM
Sat May 04 2019 12:31 PM
D
Dcurtis  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 24
SE Michigan
John
No worries there as of yet. It is titled. But it’s titled to the serial number of the block. Even on the original title which I have a copy of. So I do have to find out about how to change that if the block is shot. And I do agree it very likely is but I haven’t gotten into it yet

Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309514
Sat May 04 2019 02:39 PM
Sat May 04 2019 02:39 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
Yes, (as you indicated) when you title it by the original block, ask your DMV what you should do when you change the block.

See if you can get their instructions in writing, and/or, send them a registered letter with your understanding of their instructions.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309525
Sat May 04 2019 04:36 PM
Sat May 04 2019 04:36 PM
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2ManyTrucks  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 187
california
Well don’t get too down until you got solid data...
I needed a 235 temporary replacement for my original 216, the best candidate in my junk car pile was an engine that last ran in 1980,
After removing a gallon of cherry pits and mice nests, from inside, I gas washed the rockers and valves and oil pan, sprayed oil on it, hammered all the valves free with wd-40, pounded some bent push rods straight-er...
And that’s the engine I’ve been running for about 3 summers now. It leaks coolant out the side of the casting a bit, this engine also froze a bit with water in it one fall back in the late 70s, I’m gonna use jbweld to seal that up one of these days.
-s


1430s, 1420, 9430
-2MT
Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309572
Sat May 04 2019 11:31 PM
Sat May 04 2019 11:31 PM
truckernix  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 8,826
Bracebridge Ontario Canada
I will say that getting an old motor unstuck and getting it running is one of the most fun filled things I have ever done. My truck sat in a field for over 17 years and I got it going. It didn't have nests inside but it was stuck at first.I did an in place rebuild and put about 40K miles on it. Last year I pulled it, had the block tanked and bored and it is like new.


1951 GMC 1 Ton Flatbed -- It is finally on the road and what a great time I have driving it!
1951 1 Ton Completed


My Chevy Master 4 Door is on the Road!
Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309576
Sun May 05 2019 12:30 AM
Sun May 05 2019 12:30 AM
D
Dcurtis  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 24
SE Michigan
I did a little more inspection today after work. The rockers are very rusty to the point of rust is scaling off them I think the head has rusted itself into one solid piece I really don’t know if I’ll even be able to remove the head bolts. Going to clean the rest of the mouse hotel tomorrow after work and try removing the bolts before I even start with the manifold bolts.

Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309945
Tue May 07 2019 02:46 PM
Tue May 07 2019 02:46 PM
D
Dcurtis  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 24
SE Michigan
Ok I think I have decided on the path this truck is going to go on after a week of thinking and discovery !
It’s probably going to be a few weeks before I can get it into the shop as my son and his buddy are working on a 97 mustang. So I’m going to leave the truck out behind the barn until then, and just keep spraying every nut and bolt with penetrating oil every day or so hopefully that will help with some of the worst bolts.
In the meantime lots of research and questions!!
I’m still looking for a repair manual anyone have an opinion on where to find the best one ?
Here’s a picture of the rear anyone know what the bent up bracket is ? Im thinking it was a spare tire holder but not to sure !

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Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309949
Tue May 07 2019 03:03 PM
Tue May 07 2019 03:03 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
The 1947-1951/52 Chevrolet Truck Shop Manual is on-line.
It is also available in reproduction (hardcopy & CD-ROM) from many parts vendors.

You might want to visit the Tech Tips section (on top-line menu above). Lot of good advice and information there (especially in Getting Started).


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309950
Tue May 07 2019 03:08 PM
Tue May 07 2019 03:08 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
My bad/wrong guess is that bent bar is an "add-on".

You have a few good dents in the frame members, too?

Last edited by tclederman; Tue May 07 2019 04:22 PM. Reason: Bad guess

Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309956
Tue May 07 2019 03:38 PM
Tue May 07 2019 03:38 PM
John Milliman  Offline
Founder/Developer
Joined: Nov 1995
Posts: 4,093
St. Mary's Co., MD
The bent up bar *is/was* one of two that held the spare tire there.


John

'49 Chevrolet 3804
'70 Boston Whaler Sakonnet w/ '84 Evinrude 90
'85 Ford F-350 "The Farm Dawg"

Re: 1950 4400 [Re: Dcurtis] #1309992
Tue May 07 2019 11:04 PM
Tue May 07 2019 11:04 PM
D
Dcurtis  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 24
SE Michigan
There is a add on to the frame of about 20” I assume it was for the sign that it carried for 40 years. Yes the rear crossmember is bent down a little that can easily be straightened. The main frame rails appear to be very straight and in very good condition.
John,
I really think it looks like that bent up piece was a spare tire carrier but I see no evidence of a missing second piece.

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