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1957 Frankenstein Build #1308495 Thu Apr 25 2019 03:39 AM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Well I figured this would be the best place to gather my thoughts since I am not really sure where I actually fit in here. Some of this may be a rehash of my welcome post but I figured I would lay it out again.



I bought what I thought was told was a 1957 4400. After some research and getting it home it appears what I have is a 4400 Cab and frame, with a later model 1/2 C10 front axle/hubs, that has been bobbed and had a F250/F350 ford 10 1/4" rear axle, with a 230 out of a 1967 C10 This is as it was the day I picked it up.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/dhCIxVs.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/aNF4xMF.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/obn7OKs.jpg[/img]

The first thing I did was give it a bath and remove the rotting flat bed. I gave it a basic tune up as well. The rear brakes were in poor shape so they were disassembled, rotors turned, axles seals replaced, ect. I pulled the seat out of the cab along with the vinyl floor and washed out the interior.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/YYJ6Ll9.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/JRFr8Ob.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jAXt5p6.jpg[/img]

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309156 Wed May 01 2019 04:40 AM
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Hotrod Lincoln Offline
Boltergeist
Hmmmm- - - - -interesting! One thing in its favor is that a small block V8 will drop in onto those engine mounts and bellhousing without much if any massaging. If you're not into belly button (Everybody's got one!) V8's, a 292 big six will fit with a slight reposition job on the passenger's side front motor mount. The 230 might be a little on the lightweight side, power-wise, for the rest of the truck you've got there!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309271 Thu May 02 2019 03:37 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
All new lines plumbed, mounted correctly, ect. Master cylinder was dry but no rust so filled her up and bled it. I have brakes now!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/NaXfqME.jpg[/img]

Took her out for a spin and it was obvious that the carb needed some help. Basic tune up was done as well. Started fixing some wiring. Pulled the valve cover off and everything in the valvetrain looked really good. Carb was disgusting. Using a few guides i think i managed to get the right kit on order. New choke cable on the way along with some odds and ends as well.

Also seriously does this board not support embedded images? I have use IMGUR {IMG} tags for years on forums without issue.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309272 Thu May 02 2019 03:48 PM
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Justhorsenround Offline
Grease Monkey, Moderator General Truck Talk & Greasy Spoon
RaiderGT, the official Stovebolt photo posting instructions are in the left margin of every page. Simple easy to follow procedure.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309281 Thu May 02 2019 05:42 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Ok yeah I looked at that, so the answer is No, the board does not support embedded images. Seems kind of crazy.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309288 Thu May 02 2019 08:00 PM
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Justhorsenround Offline
Grease Monkey, Moderator General Truck Talk & Greasy Spoon
I’m a bit dense with computer stuff. What exactly do you mean by embedded images? Photos are all over our site. What’s different?


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309292 Thu May 02 2019 09:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
An embedded image usually refers to the display of the image in-line in the text.
We cannot do that.

We can, however, display images below the text in most fora.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309301 Thu May 02 2019 09:38 PM
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Justhorsenround Offline
Grease Monkey, Moderator General Truck Talk & Greasy Spoon
Thanks Tim. I fail to see there being a problem. But that’s just me.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309305 Thu May 02 2019 09:43 PM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
I also see no problem, Martin


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309373 Fri May 03 2019 12:27 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Not a problem, just confused me at first. I will change how I link them from now on.

Im having a bit of trouble with wheels at the moment. The units on the truck are obviously aftermarket, built the only thing I know about them is that they are 16x8 made in USA manufactured in 2009. Obviously the fronts are 6x5.5 and the rears are 8x6.5. I found a set of american racing outlaws that are manufactured in both patterns but I am reading here that the 6x5.5 will have too small of a hub circle since I am fairly confident I have early 1/2 ton c10 front end on the truck (any way I can know for absolute certainty?) My point being a previous owner, as recently as 2009, was able to find a set of matching wheels that fit. What do you guys recommend?

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1309378 Fri May 03 2019 01:06 PM
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Justhorsenround Offline
Grease Monkey, Moderator General Truck Talk & Greasy Spoon
Raider, I think (and I could be wrong) you will find most folks don’t come to the Project Journals to answer questions. This forum is for “Blog” type posting of what you did and how you did it. Your questions will get better response when posted in the appropriate garage forum. BTW, I’ve been through the frankenbuild a few times myself. It can be a real challenge. Good luck.🛠


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1310920 Thu May 16 2019 04:53 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
So not a huge update as I have been on the road for nearly 2 weeks. But I got my carb rebuilt last night. Rockauto dropped the ball though and didn't send me the correct intake/exhaust manifold gasket so I don't think I will be taking those off before I get it running again. I am having a hard time picking a direction to go in with my build at the moment. For right now I just think I am going to get it reliable for the summer and then plan a full body off for the winter.

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Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1311636 Thu May 23 2019 02:05 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Well I found what was a complete mess in the cooling system. So I flushed it out a few times, eventually just running the truck with a hose hooked up to it and the block drain pulled. Tried to clean it out as best I could. Then i installed a new water pump, thermostat, and shot blasted and painted the pulley,fan, and water neck. I have a rule that even if its temporary, if I pull something off it gets cleaned and painted before getting bolted back on. Makes me feel better anyway. I also installed a mini tac. Have no fear, I drilled no holes and spliced no wires to mount it up. I wanted to get a sense of where the truck was at for tuning purposes.

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Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1311745 Fri May 24 2019 03:22 AM
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Fox Offline
Shop Shark
Raider, I love your rule. It sure is fun bolting on clean stuff! I try my best to follow your lead but can’t seem to do that consistently!


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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1312356 Wed May 29 2019 08:32 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Turns out new water pump was a poor casting and the dimensions are wrong so the pulley grinds against the pump body when running. So all that has to come apart again. Started messing with the doors to see how bad the damage was. Realized the old weatherstrip is doing nothing but holding water in so that got 86ed. Found some bondo over rust in the rocker steps. Ground everything down and shot over it all with some rust reformer. This isnt permanent. This is just to stop the bleeding until it all comes apart for a proper redo.

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Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1323019 Thu Aug 22 2019 05:50 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Hey, I know its been a minute but the project is still moving! Been crazy busy with work on-top of having 4 more bikes roll in the shop.

I finally got a functioning semi appropriate exhaust on the truck. The Manifold was broken off at the mounting flange. Off came the carb again along with the intake and exhaust manifolds. A new repro manifold was sourced. Both were shot blasted and painted with POR High temp Manifold paint. Ive used this before with decent success. Works a lot better then the spray on stuff by VHT just take good prep and patience in application. New felpro gaskets installed. I got a universal GM flange kit from summit, along with a walker midpipe for a 1962 C10, and a cherry bomb glass pack. Once again this is really only a temporary setup just to make the thing drive-able.

Next up, wiring. A got a full replacement fused harness and I am gutting every thing. Tired of looking at the mess. Not to mention the fact that I have a draw on the system.

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Re: 1957 Frankenstein Build [Re: RaiderGT] #1324932 Thu Sep 05 2019 12:30 PM
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RaiderGT Offline OP
New Guy
Let the wiring woes begin!

After researching wiring kits I have come to the conclusion that they are pretty much all the same. Different names and re sellers but all the same stuff. I bought a 21 circuit unit off the bay and got to work. To supplement it I also bought wiring loom, a bunch of weather proof 12 pin connectors, ect. I also determined that this would be a good time to put in a radio and update the instrument cluster.

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