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1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build #1308222 Tue Apr 23 2019 04:29 AM
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Fox Offline OP
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I don’t know if I’m a sucker for punishment or not, but I really enjoy working on these old girls. I have been waiting for my baby daughter to arrive (due tomorrow), waiting on parts for Grandpa’s C10, and waiting on shipping mistakes. So in the meantime, I pulled out pieces I had started a couple years ago, which I was supposed to be building until the C10 fell back into my world, and got back to work on the 1950 1/2 ton.

I tested out my new welder. It runs beautifully on the MiG setting but I was itching to get the TIG going. I practiced a bit and then jumped in both feet into welding out panels on the box that I am building. I have found it very difficult to get the “stacked dimes” but I have progressed very quickly in my own mind. Now I only have to sharpen my tungsten about once every 15 minutes or so, compared to every other arc! At first things were bumpy and crooked and I had to grind things out to make it look good on the front panel’s front side against the box. The left bed side tube needed a little grinding, and the right even less. A few stitches look very good, whilst others are hmmmmm but still good enough. I will use very minimal filler but it is going well.

I welded out the front panel, left and right tubes of the bed sides with the TIG, and the rear cross sill with the MIG. I love how the TIG heat and warpage is sooo much less invasive. The tubes on the bed sides barely moved. The rear sill however, bowed about 1/8” over 4ft. Pretty good, but I bet if I’d tigged it, it would’ve stayed straight. In all I welded about 16ft with the tig last night and tonight and it is going well. I just have to finish the spot welds for the angle strips (it’s tacked), weld in nuts for the rear sill to bed side bolts, attach/drill the holes for the front panel to cross sill, and I can call this box ready and done for body and paint work.

Some of these photos are older and were in another thread but I figured I keep the whole build in one place. Here’s where the 1/2 ton sits..

Hours
Frame/Front Sheet: 12 hours
Box: 15
Total: 27

I am not including the hours spent swapping the cab and sheet metal from the old one ton onto this truck and vice versa.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/SBJwxVHYJTPD8bmv8


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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1308362 Wed Apr 24 2019 04:07 AM
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“Captive nuts” welded into the rear cross sill for tailgate and box mounting.
Angle strip completely spot/plug welded into place.
Fender mounting holes drilled through the angle strip in the front and rear position.

Frame/sheet:12
Box: 16
Total: 28


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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1308629 Fri Apr 26 2019 03:35 AM
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Tonight I finished grinding out the right box top side and then promptly dropped it and smashed the end of the top tube from a circle shape into a 1/2 circle. **** me off. So I had to beat it back into shape with a BFH and a rounded piece of sucker rod.this slowed me down considerably. I then began mock-up on the frame to check fit and see if things lined up. I have to remove the rear sill and shave about 1/8” off the ends in order to get my holes to line up perfectly. The box is 1/“8 wide because of the sill width and consequently the holes for the sill to bed side are out about this distance. I also mocked up the front sill so I can prep my home made front panel for the lower mounting lip. I will just plug weld a piece of angle iron onto it with holes drilled to bolt into the cross sill. Then I can mock up tailgate and begin bed wood work I suppose. We will see if those C10 parts come in! 😎

Frame/Sheet: 12
Box: 18
Total: 30
🦊😎

https://photos.app.goo.gl/uXDYmWhsVffZun2c6

If anybody is interested, in the picture that shows the box from the direct rear you can notice that the top tube is plugged on the right. This is simply a 1&5/8” frost plug reversed and rubber hammered into place. I have tried this on an actual original Chevy box side and it will work there as well. It is super cheap, fast, easy, and I think it looks pretty good. I will drill a small hole and put a tiny plug weld into the tube so it never backs out.

Last edited by Fox; Fri Apr 26 2019 03:40 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1308880 Mon Apr 29 2019 04:00 AM
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I couldn’t resist bolting it on! I have one hole that is about 3/32 of an inch out. A little touch with the die grinder and I’ll be in good shape!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1EbMa82A5Xv45Qat9


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1309789 Mon May 06 2019 04:28 AM
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Tonight I removed the tires, blocked it, ripped out the old shocks, spring overload “steel rubbers”, brake lines, and began examining the rear end for the 62 3.90 rear gear swap I have planned for this truck. My pal wants the old torque tube and 4.10 gear for a project he is working on, so I’ll be glad to get rid of that big piece of iron!

Frame: 10.5
Sheet: 3
Box: 18
Total: 31.5
🦊😎


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1310242 Fri May 10 2019 04:27 AM
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A few nights ago I tore the old brake shoes and drums off. The left rear was a real bear and fought me the whole way. The bloody shoe was so badly worn into the drum that I had to back off the adjuster the whole way, and of course it’s 70 years old, rusty, cruddy and didn’t like to move. After backing it off the whole way, I still had to hammer and pry the snot out of the drum to get it to budge. The brake and drums are off.

Tonight I blocked up the frame on the driveway pad and proceeded to remove the rear center section to redo seals and such before I install the 62 rear gear. I’m doing this to get an open driveline for my 261 and T5 combination that’s sitting in the parts shed awaiting rebuild. I was in a good mood and was bobbing my head to the music as I raised up the back end, blocked it, removed the diff cover...all is good! Whoop whoop. “This stuff is fun!”
Wrench
Wrench
Wrench...
Then I went to remove the locking bolt for the axle spacer between the axle side gears...
SNAP! It twisted off.

You...dirty...m...(insert your very colourful language here and then do it again. And again. And again).

I tried to drill it in order to try an easy out. I started to drill and then the bloody bolt pushed in further! What the?! It snapped off right where the threads ended but of course it had a lip that was like a barb and forced it deeper with little hope of extraction. By this point I was extremely mad and should have gone to bed. But I began to think that my pal likely has parts for this kind of screw up. I wanted that gear out tonight. So what to do?
Hmmm...well...
That won’t work...
I doubt I can get in there...
Would this work.. bugger, of course not....

I had a neighbour once tell me, “If you’re going to hit it, *bleeping* hit it!”

So...


Enter my BFH! grabbed a long punch, my vise grips, and my sledge hammer. I hit that bloody pinion gear shaft as hard as I could and after a few blows I sheared that keeper bolt sideways. I was able to get the spacer out with surprisingly little damage. Hopefully my pal is able to salvage what remains. I packed up quickly and shut down as the mosquitoes were starting to swarm in force and my light was fading fast.

I checked my ‘62 axles and c clips, gears, etc that I took from the donor ‘62 to see how they looked compared to the 50’s. This install might work out after all. I hate twisted off bolts like that. That was one nearly impossible, methinks.

I’ll grab some pictures later to update as the sun had set and dusk was deep.


Frame: 17
Sheet: 3
Box: 18
Total: 38
🦊😎

Update:pics

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AJKWcycf3f3L6YzA7

Here you can see the sheared keeper bolt. What a dirty bugger.

Last edited by Fox; Sat May 11 2019 04:14 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1310332 Sat May 11 2019 04:10 AM
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Tonight I had to clean shop. It seems you do a little job here, a little job there, here, there, and soon every bloody tool, welder, grinder that you have is out. Then you’re sidling past things, it gets annoying, and in some cases is going to cause you to hurt yourself. So I spent 45 minutes putting things away, taking out old cardboard, sweeping, and cleaning some oiled up tools from the rear gear pull last night. Shop looks decent once again and I’m not so ashamed when visitors step in to see what’s happening in my workspace.

As a note, clean up times do not get totaled into my hours. I have had people actually ask me that! I may do things slowly but I try to be as honest with my time as I can. I’m still learning.

Afterwards I dug into the parts shed, which by some miracle is actually pretty organized, and pulled out the ‘62 rear gear. I can’t believe it but I pulled that rear gear over 5 years ago from an old farmer just south of town who let me at that old c10. I pulled the pinion nut and the pinion and of course the yoke was wrapped up with packed grass/hayfrom driving in the fields at some point. I pressed out the seal and bearing. The seal was in rough shape but the surrounding areas look pretty good. I also disassembled the other components in preparation for a deep clean. This will also enable me to deep clean the outer housing without fear of contaminating the bearings. Things went well tonight.

Frame: 18
Sheet: 3
Box: 20
Total: 41
🦊😎😃

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AJKWcycf3f3L6YzA7

Last edited by Fox; Sat May 11 2019 04:13 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1310570 Mon May 13 2019 04:11 AM
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Rear seals removed, rear bearings removed, rear end pulled from truck. The spring hangers on the very back are completely egged out and will need to be replaced. I think one of my parts trucks has a decent set on the back. The rubber seals are still intact on that truck so I’ll remove that rear end as well and then transfer the spring mounts to this truck. The frame on the parts truck is rotten at the “K/X”(...main?) cross member. I’m looking froward to getting that 3.90 installed. Well, after some cleaning, welding, blasting, and painting!

I also ripped a handful more boards for the bedwood. I cut them to length but will need to square them up, route them, and plane them at my father in laws’s shop.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Y1zSwzJvYxdxbwmM6

Frame:20
Sheet:3
Box:20
Total: 43
🦊😎

Update- May 13th:
I ripped out the parts truck suspension with the old gas axe tonight. It took me longer than I expected. It’s weird how that happens, eh? The spring’s clips are broken on the parts truck, hangers look good, shackles look decent (for a 68 year old truck), but the housing is shot. I should be able to salvage at least one complete rear end between these 3 trucks.

Frame: 21.5
Total: 44.5

Last edited by Fox; Tue May 14 2019 04:46 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1310644 Tue May 14 2019 12:17 AM
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Man they look good. I’m in the middle (well more like the beginning) of a rebuild on a 50 3100. Ours look very similar. Thanks for sharing

Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1311481 Wed May 22 2019 04:19 AM
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I have ripped the boards to length and width. I had to square them up with a straight edge and a circular saw before running them through the table saw. I still have to plane them and then rip the strip grooves though.

I also removed spring hangers from a parts truck and rmoeved the bushings and pivots. They were rust welded in place. I had to cut, slice, dice and then press them out. The hanger housings are in ok shape. There was a slight wear on both so I mixed up some JB weld and filled them in. I then hand filed them down to smooth. They should be fine when I get new bushings installed.

Frame: 23
Box: 22
Sheet: 3
Total: 48

🦊😎 A good few nights.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AieUiBvk8Q7QkZKMA

Next up. Front end removal and then hopefully get back on the C10.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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