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Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1307789 Fri Apr 19 2019 10:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 160
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Shop Shark
Ok Gentlemen, I detect a slight difference of opinion on this issue ohwell I guess at this point I will opt for going back to the solid cam as I don't need to encounter more mechanical issues than I already have. It's great to hear both side of the issue though - I learn so much from you guys that I can't ever repay.. THANKS. smile


Still trying to get ole Betsy back on the road.
Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1307800 Fri Apr 19 2019 11:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,446
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Master Gabster
While I do enjoy the quietness of my hydraulic lifters in my '53 235, I am annoyed by the racket which I have to put up with of one stubborn lifter until the engine reaches operating temperature. I have tried to adjust it anywhere from 1/4 to 1 full turn with no change. Some day I will pull that lifter and see if I can see anything amiss inside of it. The engine has 20,000 miles on the rebuild, so I don't expect it to iron itself out before the next rebuild is due.
Carl

Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1307801 Fri Apr 19 2019 11:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,662
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Shop Shark
I packed up and threw the towel in with hydraulics as well. I had Delta Cam grind me a 261 solid lifter profile and have been 100% satisfied.


1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bli...n05i04t1aokgm4p04jiwgffwhyyih5xbk0h00410
1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1307890 Sat Apr 20 2019 04:42 PM
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Posts: 262
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Shop Shark
Although I mentioned the hydraulic lifter cams as an option, to be clear, I'm running a 261 reground to OE specs by Delta, also. Something satisfying about the periodic "bonding" with the engine. So, adjusting the valve train appeals to me... as well as a bit more performance.

The Elgin stuff looks very interesting, so I've noted that for future projects. Good info!

Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1308014 Sun Apr 21 2019 03:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 21,033
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Boltergeist
According to some preliminary measurements I've made, it looks like I might be able to make a 261 cam fit a 216 by changing the diameter of the bearing journals. I've got a junk 235 cam in the lathe right now to test the theory. If it will slip into an old block I have once the journals are reduced in size then I can do a timing and lift check to see if there might be any piston/valve problems.

Update- - - -with the cam bearing journals resized, a 54-up full oil pressure 235 big-journal cam fits a small-journal (splash-oiler) 235 block and the crankshaft clears everything. Since the 235 has a longer stroke shaft than a 216, logic suggests the same modification would work on a 216. I'll probably pick up a new Elgin 261 grind cam and incorporate it into the updated 216 I'm working on.

Now, wouldn't it be impressive if a 216 can be built to outperform a 235, either in HP, torque, or maybe both?
Jerry



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Re: Blue Flame or Not
Craig /49 Panel #1308733 Sat Apr 27 2019 04:50 PM
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Unrepentant VW Lover
Carl -- Maybe Jerry will let you borrow his Cajun voodoo priestess to put a kapu on that lifter...


John
"There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes..."


'49 Chevrolet 3804

Re: Blue Flame or Not
John Milliman #1308870 Mon Apr 29 2019 02:29 AM
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Posts: 9,446
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Originally Posted by John Milliman
Carl -- Maybe Jerry will let you borrow his Cajun voodoo priestess to put a kapu on that lifter...

I am sure he could have over this past weekend, except that I brought the wrong truck. DOH!
BTW, even though we all had a great time at Homecoming, we dearly missed you. I was a bit sad over your absence. Cosmo cried a little bit.
Carl

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