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What have I gotten Myself Into? #1307443
Wed Apr 17 2019 07:01 PM
Wed Apr 17 2019 07:01 PM
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RaiderGT  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 10
Southern MD
Hello there, before I get to the big problem a bit about myself:

Mid 20s hobbyist/tinkerer/mechanic. I mainly do motorcycles but I like oddball and long forgotten cars. I've got quite a few rebuilds under my belt and know my way around a wrench, welder, and paint gun. That being said, I am no expert and am not afraid to call on some help. This is where my story comes in. I just made a deal on what I was told was a 1957 Chevy 4400. However you can tell by the pictures it is not a 1.5 ton truck. The cab however, I believe is a 4400 cab. I was told it was originally a 235 but a newer 230 now sits in its place. The original M420 is still there. The axle in the rear is 8 LUG and has a 12bolt cover. The front is 6 LUG and im not sure what it is. It runs good and the trans works well. The driver side rear brake is locked up. I go and pick it up Saturday. And help at all identifying what I have going on here would be great, as I will need to start buying parts.

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Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307446
Wed Apr 17 2019 07:42 PM
Wed Apr 17 2019 07:42 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
Grease Monkey
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,268
El Reno, Okla
Welcome to the Stovebolt madness. There is no cure! Read through the various forums and ask your questions in the most appropriate one. There is a wealth of information in our Tech Tips section including “How to identify your Stovebolt”.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


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Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307454
Wed Apr 17 2019 08:29 PM
Wed Apr 17 2019 08:29 PM
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bartamos  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,907
State48 Ranch
The VIN may help a little. My guess: 4400 Cab, Home made flatbed. Unknown chassis. Emblems blacked out. Fender emblems on backwards. Need to measure wheel base.

Only 8 lug, 12 Bolt I know of is an odd ball AAM dodge? Recheck cover count. Thought it would be a Dana 60. Obviously there are plenty of casting numbers on front and rear diffs. Front could be 1/2T or 3/4T.

Repeat: Just guesses.

Nice looking truck.


1960 GMC K1001 (The Oreo SpeedWagon)
To each his own or the Highway.
All I know is what the voices in my head tell me and a little from watching TV.




Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307472
Wed Apr 17 2019 10:56 PM
Wed Apr 17 2019 10:56 PM
69Cuda  Offline
Big Bolt Forum Moderator
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,934
Seattle, Wa.
welcome to the site! Only thing that seems for sure is that it is a 4400 cab and nose. SM420 is a good strong trans. You may be pulling stuff apart and playing detective to actually figure out what you have. Counting and measuring leaf spring packs and also measuring how wide the front axle is may help narrow that stuff down. Someone may have put a 4400 cab on a 1/2 ton frame and just swapped the rear axle out.


Mike

1955 Chevy 6400 ex-flatbed (no bed now!)
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1958 Chevy 6400 flatbed W/dump
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1959 Chevy Suburban Owned for almost 20 years, Daily Driver -- sold May 2016
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Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307494
Thu Apr 18 2019 01:25 AM
Thu Apr 18 2019 01:25 AM
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RaiderGT  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 10
Southern MD
Ran over today and tried to unstick the wheels to no avail. But i managed to grab a few more shots that might help. Also do embedded images not work on this board?

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Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307522
Thu Apr 18 2019 03:23 AM
Thu Apr 18 2019 03:23 AM
Rusty Rod  Offline
Moderator - The Electrical Bay and Rocky Mountain Bolters
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,876
Loveland, Colorado
Welcome to the 'bolt. It looks like you have a great project. Please ask your questions in the applicable forums tho, because you will get more answers

Last edited by Achipmunk; Fri Apr 19 2019 01:35 AM.

Another quality post.


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Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307535
Thu Apr 18 2019 06:16 AM
Thu Apr 18 2019 06:16 AM
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Fred T  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,773
Wichita, KS
My guess would be a 1/2 ton front axle. 6 lugs ended in 70 for older trucks. The 12 bolt, 8 lug rear, Dana 60, was used in 3/4 ton late 60s to 70s.
Another source of info, especially for the later model trucks is http://67-72chevytrucks.com.
Good luck with your detective work.

Last edited by Achipmunk; Fri Apr 19 2019 01:36 AM.

Fred
52 3600
69 C-10
(NA) Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307545
Thu Apr 18 2019 11:27 AM
Thu Apr 18 2019 11:27 AM
Hambone  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,261
california, md
Raider, welcome to the somd old chevy truck crowd. Lots of help in the area. I would say introduce yourself to mike b who will be first hand familiar with 57ish.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
Flappy Fenders
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures on Photobucket

1962 Chevrolet C10
Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307548
Thu Apr 18 2019 11:36 AM
Thu Apr 18 2019 11:36 AM
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RaiderGT  Offline OP
New Guy
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 10
Southern MD
Thanks guys. Which section should I post in since I am not sure exactly where I fit in, this Big Bolts? Or would I be better off starting a project thread? Is Mike B a member here I am assuming?

Last edited by Achipmunk; Fri Apr 19 2019 01:36 AM.
Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: Fred T] #1307628
Thu Apr 18 2019 09:35 PM
Thu Apr 18 2019 09:35 PM
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bartamos  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,907
State48 Ranch
Originally Posted by Fred T
My guess would be a 1/2 ton front axle. 6 lugs ended in 70 for older trucks. The 12 bolt, 8 lug rear, Dana 60, was used in 3/4 ton late 60s to 70s.
Another source of info, especially for the later model trucks is http://67-72chevytrucks.com.
Good luck with your detective work.

When I checked I found that Dana 60 has 10 bolt. Where did I go wrong?

Raider....are you saying that the brakes are locked? This is a common issue with trucks sitting a long time. Unscrew the bleeder. Then it's bang bang, lever, twist, pry and bang and heat and soak and bang and maybe a puller. Sometimes things get broken but parts are available.

Also one thing for sure, you should not continue in the welcome section. Our forums have descriptions for what they are for. See General, driveline, Tons O Fun...........

Last edited by Achipmunk; Fri Apr 19 2019 01:37 AM.

1960 GMC K1001 (The Oreo SpeedWagon)
To each his own or the Highway.
All I know is what the voices in my head tell me and a little from watching TV.




(NA) Re: What have I gotten Myself Into? [Re: RaiderGT] #1307635
Thu Apr 18 2019 10:57 PM
Thu Apr 18 2019 10:57 PM
Hambone  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,261
california, md
MIKE B is a active member here and from SOMD.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
Flappy Fenders
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures on Photobucket

1962 Chevrolet C10
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