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Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? #1305241 Sat Mar 30 2019 03:36 AM
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Beartooth-Cowboy Offline OP
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Hello, I have a ‘62 C10 with a ‘57 235 L6. It has a SM420 4 speed transmission now. I have a line on a ‘62 Saginaw 3 speed with overdrive which came from a SBC.

Checked the archives and did not see a thread similar to my question.

Any difference in bell housings?
Can I use my current housing?
Need to buy V8 housing?

Need to switch over as I live pretty rural, and 55 mph is tough on the old girl.

Thanks in advance,


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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305243 Sat Mar 30 2019 03:43 AM
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Hy Beartooth-Cowboy, from what you have told us the three speed should swap into place of the four speed with no problem, the driveshaft length will probably be different, hope that helps.

Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305244 Sat Mar 30 2019 03:50 AM
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Hotrod Lincoln Offline
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The bellhousing, clutch, etc. will be a direct bolt-in swap. You'll need to come up with the electrical system to make the OD operate properly and a shifter of some type, since the Saginaw was intended to be used with a column shift. Hurst used to make a floor shift conversion for that transmission, but you'll probably end up with some problems with shift rod clearance around the OD unit. BTW, a Saginaw with OD is a VERY scarce item and most people who know what they have will be asking an outrageous price. Another, less expensive approach would be to use a T-5 OD 5 speed in place of the SM-420. It's a weak sister compared to the 420, but it will give you better road speed. You'll lose most of the load-hauling capability of the truck, however.
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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305248 Sat Mar 30 2019 04:54 AM
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Thanks for the fast replies.

I think I got a pretty good deal on the Saginaw with OD; much cheaper than a T-5 once you consider everything involved : spacer/adapter, clutch ...

Thanks again,

BC


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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305288 Sat Mar 30 2019 03:32 PM
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The Saganaw overdrive transmission was not available until 1966. It can be identified by the 7 bolt side cover. They are very sought after as they are full syncro units. A 62 transmission is a SM319 Muncie with an R10 BW overdrive unit. It can be identified by the 4 bolt side cover. 1st gear is non syncro in the SM319. They work well in most applications.
Fred

Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305304 Sat Mar 30 2019 05:17 PM
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Your original question was about the differences between the bellhousings. I had a problem trying to use an older L6 bellhousing for my V8-T5 swap. The starter area was different and my newer (70s) starter wouldn't fit into it. I had to find a "621" bellhousing. Sounds like you should be fine though.

Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305355 Sun Mar 31 2019 12:49 AM
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Thanks again for the helpful advice and answers. This is a great community of like-minded enthusiasts.


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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305382 Sun Mar 31 2019 02:40 AM
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The bell housings will not enterchange but the trans. will fit either one.
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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305510 Mon Apr 01 2019 01:29 AM
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I have a few cast iron bells from the 1963-1972 era. The bell will bolt directly to a SBC or an L6 from 1963 up to maybe the mid to late 80's. I just don't know when GM changed to a newer bolt pattern. Some bells have a center bore of 4 + 11/16". The others have a center bore of 5.125" IIRC. Your 1962 bell should have a hydraulic PS clutch fork and should have a 4 + 11/16" center bore. You should measure the diameter of the front bearing retainer just to be sure it's the same size as the bell bore. The input shaft should be 10 spline and the correct length.

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Re: Any difference between L6 and V8 bellhousings? [Re: Beartooth-Cowboy] #1305512 Mon Apr 01 2019 01:35 AM
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Thanks Lugnutz and Wrenchbender. Good information. This project is in its infancy, but I have been getting good advice here.


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