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PTO for '50's 5 speed. #1303614 Mon Mar 18 2019 07:36 PM
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EdPruss Offline OP
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Need to know the PTO that fits a Spicer 5553a trans. Thought I had one, when I opened the cover, the trans. PTO drive gear sits 3.187" to the root of the gear, much deeper than the PTO I have. If anyone has a PTO that has the drive gear sticking out about 3", please let me know.

Thanks, Ed

Last edited by EdPruss; Tue Mar 19 2019 11:04 AM.

'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1303762 Tue Mar 19 2019 05:15 PM
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Fitzy440 Offline
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I think I saw one on a GMC 2 ton in a local junk yard. The 5 speed Spicer doesn't mount to a cross member, right?

Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1303858 Wed Mar 20 2019 01:50 AM
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Old Doug Offline
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What is this trans out of? I have some ptos and have tryed to figure out what they fit but the manufacure told me they dont keep recoreds as to what they fit. I went through this on a newer 5 speed it had 2 pto holes i think 6 possibilitys on one side and 15 on the other side.What kind of teeth strait or angled?

Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1303881 Wed Mar 20 2019 05:21 AM
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Spicer transmissions were not that popular in the '50s. There really are no catalogs available that I know about. I have several PTOs, but they all came off of either Clark or New Process. I think you will have to find a transmission which is known to be a Spicer and has a PTO on it. We used PTOs back in the '50s to pump off gasoline. It was complicated then and has gotten really tough after 60 years.

Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1303902 Wed Mar 20 2019 02:09 PM
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I seem to remember that there's an adapter gearbox that fits between the transmission and the PTO on some applications. Then a more conventional PTO box will bolt up. You might want to contact Jasper engine and transmission exchange in Jasper Indiana. They have been in the heavy duty transmission rebuilding business for decades, and they just might have the information you need, and possibly the right adapter.
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Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1304175 Fri Mar 22 2019 05:35 AM
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I have 2 trucks with the 5 speed and 3 PTO's between the 2. If someone could educate me on the identification I'd be more than happy to let go of one. I'm not planning on using any of them. For some reason I think one has the Spicer but honestly I have no idea.


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Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: Spartan] #1304284 Sat Mar 23 2019 01:52 AM
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EdPruss Offline OP
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What are the trans, ID numbers?

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1304304 Sat Mar 23 2019 04:07 AM
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Mike B Offline
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Or what are the shift patterns?

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Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: EdPruss] #1304311 Sat Mar 23 2019 05:31 AM
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Spartan Offline
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Reverse is upper left on one. I have no idea on the other because it's not running and the knob is missing.

I have no idea what the ID numbers are.


Last edited by Spartan; Sat Mar 23 2019 05:32 AM. Reason: Added clarification

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Re: PTO for '50's 5 speed. [Re: Spartan] #1304321 Sat Mar 23 2019 12:51 PM
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EdPruss Offline OP
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Could you get a px of the whole trans?

Thanks,

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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