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door weather strip #1303625
Mon Mar 18 2019 09:07 PM
Mon Mar 18 2019 09:07 PM
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bluesman  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 413
Central Missouri
I'm getting ready to install the rubber weather strip on my doors, (1953 chevy one ton) and am having a problem. I can't figure out how to get the adhesive onto the front edge of the door. There just isn't enough clearance between the door and the frame to get in there.
And it doesn't help that the hinges are also in the way. Everything I've read says to put the weather strip on after the doors are hung, so that's the way I went, but there must be a trick to it. Any suggestions or advice?

Tim


I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303628
Mon Mar 18 2019 09:21 PM
Mon Mar 18 2019 09:21 PM
HandyAndy  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 605
SE Iowa
Tim,

Check these videos out. One vendor applies the weather stripping with the door on and the other uses the door off method.

Door On Method

Door Off Method

Let us know what method you end up using and how it worked for you.

Good luck,


Andy

His: 1947 Chevrolet 3100
Hers: 2008 American Saddlebred

"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303690
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:33 AM
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:33 AM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,598
So Cal
I did door off.

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303697
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:58 AM
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:58 AM
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Fox  Offline
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,410
Breton, Alberta
Door off for me too. Less cussing, fussing, and messing.



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Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303745
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:44 PM
Tue Mar 19 2019 03:44 PM
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52Carl  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,969
Virginia
If you decide to take the door off, and you like the way the door fits currently, do yourself a huge favor and pin the hinges prior to removing the doors.
Use a new sharp high quality 3/16' or 1/4" drill bit to drill on hole for each hinge strap in the door. Drill through the inner door panel, hinge strap, and the sheet metal behind the hinge strap.
This will make it possible to put your doors in the exact same position.
Carl

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303907
Wed Mar 20 2019 03:27 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 03:27 PM
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cmayna  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,908
Menlo Park, Ca
Yes for door off and while it's off, consider restoring the hinges


Craig's '50 Chevy 3100 5 window
My truck
If I'm not working on my truck or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303929
Wed Mar 20 2019 06:26 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 06:26 PM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,598
So Cal
But, but, but, if he is happy with the current fit, and he pins the hinges, if he rebuilds them at that point, the fit will change!

If the hinges need rebuilding, remove door, install weatherstrip, rebuild hinges, re-fit door.

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303938
Wed Mar 20 2019 07:58 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 07:58 PM
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bluesman  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 413
Central Missouri
I'm leaving the doors on, I got so lucky when I first hung them, next to no adjustment needed, that I don't want to risk messing things up. I did do the weather strip on one side, I managed by applying the adhesive to the rubber seal (the part that runs at the front edge of the door), then carefully maneuvering the rubber down between the body and hinges, stick it on at the top then ran down the door with a screwdriver to get it into final position. A real mess, ended up with adhesive all over me, some on door, some on body. Then I had to pull it off because I had it on the wrong direction!! I was just hoping someone had a better method.

I finally figured out how it should be facing by cutting a short strip and sticking it on the other door to check for fit.

So now I have to get the rubber on both doors.

Tim


I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303941
Wed Mar 20 2019 08:26 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 08:26 PM
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miraclepieco  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 457
OR
I did it door on. One tip I can offer: let the adhesive partially dry before installation; that way you won't get such a mess everywhere. If you read the directions you will see that it is recommended to let it skin up before application. I have tested it myself: weatherstrip adhesive actually bonds harder if allowed to dry a bit first.



1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303943
Wed Mar 20 2019 08:48 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 08:48 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
Grease Monkey
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,275
El Reno, Okla
According to the experts at Steele Rubber the adhesive should be applied in a thin coat to both surfaces and let dry to the touch. Then install slowly keeping everything in line. I can see where 6-8 hands would be nice when doing it that way. Once it makes contact with the other surface it’s not coming back off.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


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Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303953
Wed Mar 20 2019 10:31 PM
Wed Mar 20 2019 10:31 PM
tclederman  Online
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,925
Jarvisburg, NC
A link to an excellent YouTube video was posted a few years ago. It was produced by a vendor. The technique was superb. Formerly, I used the 6-8 hands-needed technique.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303979
Thu Mar 21 2019 12:23 AM
Thu Mar 21 2019 12:23 AM
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52Carl  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,969
Virginia
I feel your pain about not wanting to take the doors off. I hate everything about doors. Everything.

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1303989
Thu Mar 21 2019 01:23 AM
Thu Mar 21 2019 01:23 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 457
OR
Here is the video showing how to get the weatherstrip behind the hinges:

https://youtu.be/Rc631QtdiC0?t=327


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: door weather strip [Re: HandyAndy] #1304014
Thu Mar 21 2019 05:59 AM
Thu Mar 21 2019 05:59 AM
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Rusty Shackleford  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 367
Vancouver, BC
Is it just me or is the orientation of the rubber on the door between the Door On/Door Off videos different? Is one way correct or both correct? I'm going to be doing this soon.


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it.
Re: door weather strip [Re: Rusty Shackleford] #1304027
Thu Mar 21 2019 11:39 AM
Thu Mar 21 2019 11:39 AM
HandyAndy  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 605
SE Iowa
Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
Is it just me or is the orientation of the rubber on the door between the Door On/Door Off videos different? Is one way correct or both correct? I'm going to be doing this soon.


It might be Rusty. There are other videos out there on this subject too and it's real obvious the door weather strip gets installed incorrectly. IMHO, there are two important things to keep in mind when installing the door weather strip: purchase the correct rubber thickness and install it with the 90 degree corner in the edge of the door. Otherwise, the door will need to be slammed real hard to latch or may not latch at all.

I've included a shot from the FAM showing the door weather strip orientation in a cross section view.

Attached Files

Andy

His: 1947 Chevrolet 3100
Hers: 2008 American Saddlebred

"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304080
Thu Mar 21 2019 06:15 PM
Thu Mar 21 2019 06:15 PM
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Rusty Shackleford  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 367
Vancouver, BC
Thanks, Andy, that's a great diagram. It appears to correspond to Dr. J's RestorationRX (door off video). That's the way I'll do it.


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it.
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304144
Fri Mar 22 2019 01:21 AM
Fri Mar 22 2019 01:21 AM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,598
So Cal
Well? It is the way the factory did it.

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304196
Fri Mar 22 2019 01:06 PM
Fri Mar 22 2019 01:06 PM
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moparguy  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 783
Watford City ND...
Rusty, my then 65 yr old wife and I took the doors off the '51 a couple winters ago and replaced the door seals. Not that bad a job and I really can't imagine being able to do it any other way and getting the gaskets properly in place. Not a fun project but again, not too bad.

Good Luck,

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304206
Fri Mar 22 2019 02:47 PM
Fri Mar 22 2019 02:47 PM
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cmayna  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,908
Menlo Park, Ca
Much easier to prepare the surfaces where the WS will reside, if the doors are off.

Attached Files
IMG_0535.JPG (61 downloads)
IMG_0536.JPG (62 downloads)

Craig's '50 Chevy 3100 5 window
My truck
If I'm not working on my truck or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304293
Sat Mar 23 2019 03:15 AM
Sat Mar 23 2019 03:15 AM
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52Carl  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,969
Virginia
Hey Craig,
What did you use for paint on the door?
Carl

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304334
Sat Mar 23 2019 02:09 PM
Sat Mar 23 2019 02:09 PM
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cmayna  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,908
Menlo Park, Ca
Morning Carl,
I believe it is rust-oleum's dark bronze metallic #7272830. Confirmed

Craig

Last edited by cmayna; Sat Mar 23 2019 03:11 PM.

Craig's '50 Chevy 3100 5 window
My truck
If I'm not working on my truck or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304418
Sun Mar 24 2019 03:37 AM
Sun Mar 24 2019 03:37 AM
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52Carl  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,969
Virginia
Looks "correct" to me in your pic! That's what I used on my '49. It has a weird characteristic of changing color depending on light source, and angle of the view. I have an original speaker grill with some great condition original paint on it and it does the same thing.

Re: door weather strip [Re: bluesman] #1304972
Thu Mar 28 2019 02:22 AM
Thu Mar 28 2019 02:22 AM
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bluesman  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 413
Central Missouri
Well, I got my weather strip installed today. The way I finally ended up doing it was to start in the middle of the hinge side. I applied the weather strip cement to the weather strip, then carefully threaded in down into position. Once it was where I wanted it I pressed it into place against the door edge, then pulled it out and let the glue set up for a bit. That was the only way I could get cement onto the surface of the door. Just too tight to get the tube nozzle in there.

Once it was set, I fed the weather strip back into position, then used a small dowel rod to press it in place. It stuck real good!

Then I went around the door installing the rest, until I got to the front lower corner. I measured how much I needed to use to butt to the piece I already installed, cut the weather strip, and repeated the steps I'd used at the beginning to get adhesive onto the door surface.

When I was finished, I let the doors set open for awhile, then closed them to check fit. The only problem I had was that the weather strip seems to want to bind about half way between the hinges. But I think the problem is that I need to adjust the door clearance.
Also, I ended up with the sealant all over my fingers, but they cleaned up (eventually) using lighter fluid.

And, by the way, that adhesive really does mess up the paint on the door. I'm going to have to do some touch up painting!

Tim


I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
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