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51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal #1296376
Sun Jan 27 2019 12:14 AM
Sun Jan 27 2019 12:14 AM
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Snowman51  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 86
Idaho Springs, CO
I have read some good posts about hinge pin removal and plan to do those to the driver side upper hinge but I see the pin has shifted upward and prevents the hinge from being removed. I have tried a chisel and a metal cutting sawzall but no luck. I just have to cut off the top of the pin to remove it. Very small working space to get in there. Any suggestions?

Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296380
Sun Jan 27 2019 12:41 AM
Sun Jan 27 2019 12:41 AM
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klhansen  Offline
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,194
Eagle River, Alaska
Are you trying to take the hinge apart while it's still mounted to the body? If so, that's going to be really tough. I don't think you can even access the pin that way.
You'll need to remove the three bolts holding it to the pillar and pull it out.

Last edited by klhansen; Sun Jan 27 2019 12:42 AM.

Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296399
Sun Jan 27 2019 02:01 AM
Sun Jan 27 2019 02:01 AM
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52Carl  Offline
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Virginia
Sounds like your hinge is still in the truck and the pin has risen up, preventing you from removing the hinge from the hinge pocket?
You are in a tight spot, brother. Do you know anyone who has a cutting torch? A careful operator can burn it off quickly without collateral damage.
I select many of my friends based on their tool arsenal. (As I am sure that many treat in kind.) smile
Carl

Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296402
Sun Jan 27 2019 02:58 AM
Sun Jan 27 2019 02:58 AM
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klhansen  Offline
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Posts: 1,194
Eagle River, Alaska
Now I understand what's going on. I think it would be tough to get a cutting torch in there, but a long thin sawzall blade should get it. Just take it slow. Another option (albeit pretty drastic), would be to cut an access hole in the cowl panel, cut the pin off and weld the hole back up.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296436
Sun Jan 27 2019 03:36 PM
Sun Jan 27 2019 03:36 PM
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Snowman51  Offline OP
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Posts: 86
Idaho Springs, CO
52Carl, That’s exactly what happened. I tried the sawzall metal cutting blade. No luck. Just seemed to leave marks on the pin. Is the pin hardened or did it just spin when trying to saw it( very hard to see as it is being sawed). What a small window to work in! Hate to cut the cowl panel but may have to. Maybe the torch next.

Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296519
Sun Jan 27 2019 11:13 PM
Sun Jan 27 2019 11:13 PM
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klhansen  Offline
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Posts: 1,194
Eagle River, Alaska
Here's another option before you cut the cowl panel open.

Maybe you can access the hinge pocket from under the dash. The dash support lines up with the hinge pocket and you might be able to get a prybar in there and push the pin down enough to get the hinge out. If the hinge pin is loose enough that it rotates when you try to saw it, it may push back down. You might have to soak it with penetrating oil. Here's a couple of photos. If they look weird, I took them of my cab upside down on the rotisserie and rotated them back right side up (in relation to the cab) That's not a toolbox on the ceiling in the background. wink

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Door hinge pocket from under dash
Last edited by klhansen; Sun Jan 27 2019 11:14 PM.

Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296769
Tue Jan 29 2019 10:10 PM
Tue Jan 29 2019 10:10 PM
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Snowman51  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 86
Idaho Springs, CO
I tried to get in to the hinge pocket through your suggested access under the dash (circled in red in the photo). Unfortunately it only led to inside the hinge pocket. My issue is just behind the hinge pocket where the pin has risen up and prevents the hinge from sliding forward and out. Thanks anyway for the suggestion.

Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1296788
Wed Jan 30 2019 12:21 AM
Wed Jan 30 2019 12:21 AM
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klhansen  Offline
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,194
Eagle River, Alaska
Originally Posted by Snowman51
I tried to get in to the hinge pocket through your suggested access under the dash (circled in red in the photo). Unfortunately it only led to inside the hinge pocket. My issue is just behind the hinge pocket where the pin has risen up and prevents the hinge from sliding forward and out. Thanks anyway for the suggestion.

HMM? From what I can tell, you should be able to reach up to the top of the hinge pocket (the part that's attached to the body) and access the pin. It would definitely take an offset tool of some sort. Or maybe remove some of the sheet metal just above the dash attachment bracket to reach the pin. But you still may not be able to push it back down. I was going to stick the hinge back in my body to check the access, but the rotisserie is bolted to the hinge attachment and is in the way.
Maybe cutting a hole for torch access on the interior would be less of an issue, cosmetically.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1297078
Thu Jan 31 2019 08:47 PM
Thu Jan 31 2019 08:47 PM
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Snowman51  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 86
Idaho Springs, CO
So an update- I finally got the hinge out! I took both the hold open springs out and had a friend tilt the top of the hinge in while I took a crow bar and worked the bottom out. With quite a bit of force, the pin snapped and the hinge came out. Some small amount of bending of the thin sheet metal surrounding the hinge took place but bent it back with very little effort. A little banging back of the edge metal of the pocket and we’re in business. Now to get rebuild kit. Aah, is there anything better than the solid thunk of an AD truck door closing? I look forward to it.

Re: 51 3100 trouble with door hinge removal [Re: Snowman51] #1297081
Thu Jan 31 2019 09:26 PM
Thu Jan 31 2019 09:26 PM
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klhansen  Offline
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,194
Eagle River, Alaska
Glad you got it out. thumbs_up

Even with the hinge pin in the right place, those buggers are a tight fit in the door pillar.

I was a little afraid to just rip mine out, but the guys here reassured me that was the way to go.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
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