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Roll up shop doors #1295948
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:04 PM
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:04 PM
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moparguy  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 783
Watford City ND...
Anyone have time to school me on roll up doors? I've been acquiring material needed to put a 20x40 shed style roof on the front of my shop. When that happens the double 5' swing out doors in each 10' opening are going to be less than ideal. . Typical overhead doors will interfere with the hard wired (as in conduit) shop lights so I'm looking at alternatives.

My suspicion is insulated roll up doors will be pretty expensive and not sure how effective they'd be due to the roll up design. Also what about door seals along the sides?

Thanks,

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1295949
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:17 PM
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:17 PM
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Grigg  Offline
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Lexington, VA
I’ve seen lights installed on the inside of traditional paneled garage doors so wheen open and stored on the ceiling you again have overheated lights. Powered by a pigtail cord like a door edge sensor may be wired with.

I doubt too that an “insulated” roll up door is worthy of calling it insulated.
I have an “insulated” traditional garage door, probably less than 2” of foam in it, all that I thought was available at the time. Better than the old aluminum skinned non insulated door but it’s easily still the cold or warm spot in the garage.

I tried researching what sort of insulated doors they use way up north where they have real winters for better part of the year but didn’t find much. They must use something better than what we have available here. Closest thing I’ve found are manufacturers of cold storage garage doors, 4 and 6” foam options, heated seals so they don’t frost over and freeze shut. but no mention of a basic version for normal garage use, less the walk in (drive in) freezer part.

Curious what you figure out.


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Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1295954
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:51 PM
Wed Jan 23 2019 01:51 PM
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diseasel  Offline
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 118
Morrisville PA
Metal Roll up doors we have at our shop our electric and manual chain ( like a chain hoist). It would also depend on what your shop is structurally made of, just looking at the doors we have they're heavy, and wouldn't stand a chance if they were in a wooden barn. There maybe be lighter ones out there, but Id imagine they're not cheap since there are lot more moving parts to them, and again no insulation. The other issue with them is they'll bind up if someone puts a good dent in them.

My uncle had a large barn door on a sliding track 12' tall offset to the corner of the shop. It sealed properly, was insulated, and never swung out on windy days. If one door is too wide for opening, you could split into 2 halves


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Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1295958
Wed Jan 23 2019 02:01 PM
Wed Jan 23 2019 02:01 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
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El Reno, Okla
Horizontal bi-fold door like used on small aircraft hangers? headscratch


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Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1296022
Thu Jan 24 2019 02:24 AM
Thu Jan 24 2019 02:24 AM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Online
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Dellrose, TN
Try this site- - - - -I'll be getting a door made by them soon, but I'm close enough to make a short road trip and pick it up at the factory:

https://www.rollupdoorsdirect.com/

They have several designs, and they will build a door to fit whatever opening you have. Mine is going to be 12 X 12 feet.
Jerry


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Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1296059
Thu Jan 24 2019 01:57 PM
Thu Jan 24 2019 01:57 PM
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moparguy  Offline OP
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Posts: 783
Watford City ND...
Thanks all for the input. Jerry, the site you linked looks pretty good. I like their instructional video. Since I've never seen a rollup door installed it answered a lot of questions. I still have to decide exactly how I'm going to do the concrete slab for the new front and then actually do the build. So I have time to consider all options and hopefully not wind up with buyers remorse when I do pull the door trigger.


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1296204
Fri Jan 25 2019 03:32 PM
Fri Jan 25 2019 03:32 PM
69Cuda  Offline
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Seattle, Wa.
I have one similar to the ones in the link Jerry provided. I have had it in for a number of years. Mine is 10w x 12 hi. It is "insulated" with a piece of bubble wrap type insulation. I think it is R4 value or something lame like that. Better than nothing but, not the best. I heat with a wood stove so,. I don't worry about losing some heat there. The shop is barn shaped and gas R19 in the walls and R30 in the ceiling so, it is pretty well insulated other than the door. I am more than comfortable out there in the winter but, we rarely drop much below the upper 20s. Most of the winter is closer to upper 30s lower 40s overnight so, probably a bit warmer than your winter!


Mike

1955 Chevy 6400 ex-flatbed (no bed now!)
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Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1296209
Fri Jan 25 2019 04:08 PM
Fri Jan 25 2019 04:08 PM
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sstock  Offline
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Posts: 1,225
Gig Harbor, WA
My next shop will have a roll up, problem with overhead doors is you loose the light when the door is open. In the day time not so bad on the hot summer nights when you are working with the door open, not so good.

Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: moparguy] #1296211
Fri Jan 25 2019 04:11 PM
Fri Jan 25 2019 04:11 PM
MNSmith  Offline

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Well, there's roll up, then there's roll up.

Re: Roll up shop doors [Re: Grigg] #1296256
Fri Jan 25 2019 08:13 PM
Fri Jan 25 2019 08:13 PM
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Lexington, VA
Originally Posted by sstock
My next shop will have a roll up, problem with overhead doors is you loose the light when the door is open. In the day time not so bad on the hot summer nights when you are working with the door open, not so good.

Originally Posted by Grigg
I’ve seen lights installed on the inside of traditional paneled garage doors so when open and stored on the ceiling you again have overheated lights. Powered by a pigtail cord like a door edge sensor may be wired with...


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
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