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1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram #1290003
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:06 PM
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:06 PM
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darthintel  Online OP
Awesome Grandpa
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 42
Oregon
Hello all,
I'm getting ready to re-wire my 1954 Chev 3100 truck, and created a wiring diagram to follow.
See the attached picture.
I'm open to all critiques. smile


Last edited by darthintel; Fri Dec 07 2018 04:27 PM.
Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290008
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:18 PM
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:18 PM
tclederman  Offline
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Jarvisburg, NC


Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290014
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:53 PM
Wed Dec 05 2018 11:53 PM
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Grigg  Online
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Lexington, VA
I think you’re showing lots of fuses in the the turn signal wiring. Usually just the main power to signal switch is fused, and brake lights fused separately from signal switch.

I Haven’t looked in detail over the rest of it, compared to original, or evaluated wire color codes and common turn signal details.


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Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290048
Thu Dec 06 2018 03:28 AM
Thu Dec 06 2018 03:28 AM
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59 fleet  Offline
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Oklahoma
A couple other comments, I would suggest nothing between the battery and the ammeter except a fusible link. You show the power for wipers, horn, flasher connected to the battery side of the ammeter, meaning not only will they always be connected to power, but also the ammeter will indicate the current going to them from the alternator. Generally the ammeter only is to indicate charging current, not accessories current. If you are concerned with running that accessory current through the ignition switch, just add one or two relays to carry that power.

I don't know what horn you are using, most only have one power wire going to the horn and the horn relay switches that power. The horn is grounded at its attachment to the truck.

Are you going to add switches to light the dome light when you open the doors?

To each his own, I don't see anything that won't work, just a little unusual. Be sure to place a fusible link between the battery and the ammeter.

Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290086
Thu Dec 06 2018 04:21 PM
Thu Dec 06 2018 04:21 PM
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darthintel  Online OP
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Oregon
Thanks for the feedback. I initially didn't have any fuses coming from the turn signal wiring going to the tail lights or parking lights, and only had the power to the flasher fused. It didn't look right not having any of the turn signal outputs from the switch fused, so I changed it. If it's common practice to not fuse the turn signal outputs, that's good to know.
I don't understand the comment that brake lights are fused separately from signal switch.
The brake light switch is fused feeding the turn signal unit-and also the outputs fused.

I wired the wipers and dome light and horn hot all the time, as I want the ability to turn on the dome light, wipers, and honk the horn independent of the ignition switch. Also - I want to be able to see charge / discharge current on the ammeter from all the accessories. Don't you want to be able to see the overall health of the charging circuit including drain from all accessories? This is how the original wiring diagram shows it.
Do I need to move the power feed to dome light, horn, and wipers to the other side of the ammeter?
Fusible link is a good idea between the battery and ammeter.

Good point on the horn - I will switch the power with the relay going to the horn.
I'm not adding switches to the doors for the dome light. Only using the dome light switch.

I also forgot to wire up the high beam indicator lamp.

Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290091
Thu Dec 06 2018 05:38 PM
Thu Dec 06 2018 05:38 PM
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darthintel  Online OP
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I made some changes .....

Last edited by darthintel; Fri Dec 07 2018 04:28 PM.
Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290175
Fri Dec 07 2018 07:06 AM
Fri Dec 07 2018 07:06 AM
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State48 Ranch
It has homemade non-standard symbols...... and has been pointed out as having mistakes. Also the horn relay still seems to be shown wrong. You show a steering wheel on a wiring diagram. You have arrows going up and down on the end of the "turn signal box". You have 25 fuses for a simple old truck and show no connectors. Too many things to list.

It is a good idea to see if you can draw a schematic or wiring diagram just for fun. You can check it against the known literature.
I have wired many trucks and always refer to the books.
Please take this with a grain of salt. I don't mean any harm. It is hard to critique without listing errors. It is also necessary in this case to ask why. Sorry for the time saving directness.

Last edited by Rusty Rod; Sat Dec 15 2018 02:33 AM. Reason: Deleted potentially inflammatory information

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Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290199
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:33 PM
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:33 PM
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darthintel, just to be clear, in your initial post you asked for critiques. With this bunch you should expect to get just that. The Staff appreciates everyone keeping this civil. You put a lot of thought into your presentation and even though it is thought by some to be overkill, it is yours not theirs. The possibility exists that someone could find helpful ideas by looking at it. Continue to post your “out of the box ideas” making sure to designate each as “Non-factory Correct”. Help, no matter how off the wall it may be, is appreciated.🛠


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Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290207
Fri Dec 07 2018 06:20 PM
Fri Dec 07 2018 06:20 PM
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darthintel  Online OP
Awesome Grandpa
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Oregon
Hello Martin,
A really appreciate all the feedback. I should have been more descriptive as to the purpose of my schematic.

Disclaimers:
Yes - It's my own diagram and doesn't follow conventional schematic rules
Yes - It's just for fun to make it my own.
Yes - it contains fun images for accessories.
Yes - I've kind of followed the original color codes, but not in all cases.
No - I'm not creating this to replace the original schematic.
Yes - I enjoy drawing for fun.
Yes - I value all feedback
I've attached my latest wiring diagram for others to look at and let me know if I've made any major mistakes.
Thank you!

Attached Files
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MY Own wiring diagram for FUN
Re: 1954 Chev 3100 Wiring Diagram [Re: darthintel] #1290210
Fri Dec 07 2018 06:38 PM
Fri Dec 07 2018 06:38 PM
tclederman  Offline
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Posts: 27,310
Jarvisburg, NC
Martin,

I appreciate the quality and clarity of your work.

If you are using a flexible CAD program, consider changing the wire colors to the original colors for original circuits?

Very nice work you have done.

Look at Bartamos’s critique for correction of errors (such as the original horn circuit).


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
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