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1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... #1286698
Fri Nov 09 2018 05:31 AM
Fri Nov 09 2018 05:31 AM
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DIY.MechanicMike  Offline OP
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Joined: May 2016
Posts: 111
Southern Illinois
Hello, I'm finally getting new single piece tubeless type rims and getting new tires for the widow maker replacements and figured since I'm getting new tires I should probably check some other front end parts as well before I wear these new tires badly. I did just replace the front shocks pretty recent and that made the log wagon feel loosen up a tad bit, and speaking of loose I have the manual steering in my truck and my steering wheel has a bit of play in it as well(the grandma 10 n 2 back and forth driving) and wondering if tie rods are due cuz I havnt changed them and would anyone know part numbers? Thanks mike

Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286716
Fri Nov 09 2018 01:35 PM
Fri Nov 09 2018 01:35 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
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Central, Oklahoma
Try adjusting your steering box first. Search, lots of info here on how to do it. shake


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Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286724
Fri Nov 09 2018 02:35 PM
Fri Nov 09 2018 02:35 PM
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Grigg  Offline
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Don't just look here, read your shop manual about how to adjust it.


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Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286735
Fri Nov 09 2018 04:19 PM
Fri Nov 09 2018 04:19 PM
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Wrenchbender Ret.  Offline
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Lenexa Ks.
After you adjust the steering gear, jack up the front to get the wheels off the ground. Grab the tires one hand on each side & push & pull on the wheel both vetically & horizontally. There should be no free play in the linkage. A small amount in the kingpins is acceptable. Get underneath & grab the tie rod near the ends & pull up & down. There should be no play in either one. Same goes for the drag link. If you do a search you may find ways to check the toe-in. If you can't do it yourself have an alignment shop do it. Nothing effects tie wear & handling like proper toe-in

George


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Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286807
Sat Nov 10 2018 02:01 AM
Sat Nov 10 2018 02:01 AM
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DIY.MechanicMike  Offline OP
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Posts: 111
Southern Illinois
Gotchya thanks for the info and pointers. I'll check the steering box adjustment in my manual tonight and maybe tinker with it tomorrow once I finish up splitting fire wood. Gonna be picking up the new rims with new tires tomorrow, super excited for that.... brand new rims and tires on the 72 c50!!! and soon to have brand new all the way around once my wallet can afford the 4 rears lol

Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286808
Sat Nov 10 2018 02:59 AM
Sat Nov 10 2018 02:59 AM
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EdPruss  Offline
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Longmont, CO
Get a friend to move the steering from left to right while you watch from underneath, you will be able to see what is worn beyond limits and needs to be replaced.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'52 GMC 630 w/ 603 gasser, ex fire truck.
Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1286849
Sat Nov 10 2018 12:54 PM
Sat Nov 10 2018 12:54 PM
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ticketman186  Offline
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Illinois
Mechanic Mike,
I have a '54 4400 that I tried adjusting the steering on to get rid of the play. Nothing was working. I found Midwest Remanufacturing and gave them a call. The owner was very knowledgeable and rebuilt mine for what I thought was a reasonable price since I didn't want to tear it open myself. He repainted it too. Looks and feels brand new now. He's right outside Chicago by Midway Airport.

http://www.pwrsteering.com/


1954 Chevy 4400
Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1287341
Tue Nov 13 2018 09:47 PM
Tue Nov 13 2018 09:47 PM
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DIY.MechanicMike  Offline OP
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Posts: 111
Southern Illinois
So I got the new rims and tires on the front of the truck and it looks nice, it gave the truck 2-3" more ground clearance in front and once i get the rears probably give me room back there too. The new tires I got are also about 2" wider then the old tires that were on the widowmakers which makes it look tougher lol, but also more tread surface making it less likely to sink in soft ground and maybe stop a lil better not sure on that tho. But my driver side drum brake was tighter then passenger so I adjusted that, makes sense now why it pulled to left a bit when i hit brakes hard. But my passenger "king pin" i think is what it's called, has minor amount of play and the tie rods seem tight but arnt very pretty that's for sure. So since I just got new tires for it, should i make a move on the issues I explained?.?.?. And I havnt messed with steering yet as we just got a cold snap and the tires took enough of my time getting on Haha. I do have to say changing tires on a big rig vs. Daily driver is a HUGE differance, and my back agrees. Maybe once we get another warm day I'll check the steering adjustment....

Ed, I'll definitely try that out. Might show me more wear with the weight on the parts...

Ticket man, how much did they charge to rebuild it? And thanks for the resource, it's kinda far as I'm at the bottom of illinois but I do have family up that way so maybe if I need to do that I can plan a trip there along with family gathering...

Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1287370
Wed Nov 14 2018 01:42 AM
Wed Nov 14 2018 01:42 AM
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EdPruss  Offline
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Posts: 2,436
Longmont, CO
Mike,

Since you live in the rust belt, it might be worthwhile to find any nuts and bolts and oil them profusely to let the oil soak in for a while, in case you need to take them apart later in your project.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'52 GMC 630 w/ 603 gasser, ex fire truck.
Re: 1972 chevy c50 front axle maintenance..... [Re: DIY.MechanicMike] #1287385
Wed Nov 14 2018 03:28 AM
Wed Nov 14 2018 03:28 AM
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DIY.MechanicMike  Offline OP
Shop Shark
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Posts: 111
Southern Illinois
Yeah everything I've taken apart so far, which is a decent amount, I have cleaned it up nicely for future fixes.... cuz as you stated i do live in the rust belt and would like it to last as long as possible. it's a great truck and in pretty decent shape becides the driver corner panel previous owner wrinkled it decently. And the driver floor has one rust hole thru it about the size of a quarter and I'm actually planning to search for some replacement floor pans and soon gonna sand blast frame and repaint it soon cuz since I've owned it I have cleaned alot of the built up grease off of frame which has opened it up to rust. But yeah I mainly use it for hauling rock in to our farm and it has alot more to do.... but back to the main issue, the play in front end, so is the king pins and tie rods the only thing controlling the alignment of front end that can get play in it and cause tire wear? And if so any good resources to find replacements? Thanks mike

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