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Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks #1286025
Sun Nov 04 2018 01:04 PM
Sun Nov 04 2018 01:04 PM
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sstock  Online OP
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Last year I finished the cab off restoration of my 53 3100. When I got to the interior, I ordered a nice maroon seat cover from Jim Carter and a new headliner and door panels. I seemed pretty happy with it at the time but now was not happy with how the cardboard door panels wore in just a year. The quality of cardboard is not really good, if you get water on them when you open the door, you will see what I mean. Eventually the cardboard started to pull out of the frames and started to look bad. I ordered 2 pieces of 12" by 36" sheet aluminum that is .050 thick from McMaster Carr and a roll of maroon vinyl from Jim Carter. I then removed the old panel and traced it over the aluminum sheet with a sharpy. Cut out the aluminum with a nice new metal blade for thin metal with a jigsaw and then drilled the appropriate mounting holes on my drill press. Did a quick test fit. Removed and to the workbench to clean the aluminum with some paint surfacer cleaner. I then applied some contact cement to the aluminum and the back side of the vinyl and set aside to dry for 20 minutes. After the contact cement was dry, I carefully laid the vinyl over the aluminum panel and rolled it in with my linoleum roller to press it in and get out any bubbles. This part it is best to have a helper hold the vinyl off the sheet and just touch one corner of the vinyl to the sheet and slowly start rolling the vinyl on as your helper allows more of the vinyl to touch the sheet until it is completely attached. Once attached, you can trim the excess off with a new razor blade and cut out the holes with an exacto knife. Next assembled the metal frame around the door panel and secure the frame on the backside with some duct tape. Then install the panel to the truck, arm rest, window cranks and door handles. It took a couple hours and cost about $80 but looks far better than it did. The key is to get alluminum sheet that is no thicker than .050 so when you add the vinyl it still fits in the metal trim. Hope this helps somebody down the road, cheers.

Steve


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1 year old cardboard panels
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Finished Passenger Side
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Tracing old door panel over .050 Aluminum Sheet 12"by 36"
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Cut and drilled out aluminum door panel
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Test Fitting
Last edited by sstock; Sun Nov 04 2018 01:07 PM.
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286026
Sun Nov 04 2018 01:06 PM
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More pictures

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Assembling metal frame around door panel
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Finished Driver's Side installed
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286028
Sun Nov 04 2018 01:10 PM
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Looks very nice, thanks for the pictures and details.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286045
Sun Nov 04 2018 03:49 PM
Sun Nov 04 2018 03:49 PM
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Looks good!

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286313
Tue Nov 06 2018 03:48 AM
Tue Nov 06 2018 03:48 AM
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Pretty Slick......I had thought about doing something like that but you have the "proof in the pudding". Great job and thanks for the details.


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286360
Tue Nov 06 2018 02:49 PM
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Thanks all for your comments.
I can't say enough good about McMaster Carr, they seem to have just about everything for any fabrication, quick shipping and reasonable prices too.
Steve

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286431
Wed Nov 07 2018 02:35 AM
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Big improvement over the cardboard.


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286433
Wed Nov 07 2018 03:05 AM
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I am curious to see how you tackle the cardboard on the roof!

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286624
Thu Nov 08 2018 08:53 PM
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you can go into production and sell them. looks great.

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: ndkid275] #1286634
Thu Nov 08 2018 10:38 PM
Thu Nov 08 2018 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ndkid275
I am curious to see how you tackle the cardboard on the roof!

Ditto

Nice work, Steve
And, nice explanation.

Ditto on ndkid275's post: "I am curious to see how you tackle the cardboard on the roof!"


Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286638
Thu Nov 08 2018 11:05 PM
Thu Nov 08 2018 11:05 PM
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I like this. Bookmarking now...


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286892
Sat Nov 10 2018 06:10 PM
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3/8 inch beadboard with the back routed out

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1286894
Sat Nov 10 2018 06:12 PM
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i made arm rests to match. i'll post when i find the picture

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287031
Sun Nov 11 2018 06:59 PM
Sun Nov 11 2018 06:59 PM
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Hi Steve.
Nice work. Here's another idea: You can also use Formica counter top material. It is not expensive, comes in a standard thickness of .035", will not warp and it will flex without permanently bending nor developing the wavy bumps fiberboard gets. Cut it so the back side (the rough side) faces outward. If you want to paint it, sand the texture on the back until it is smooth, prime it and spray it after the pieces have been cut. Or coat it with contact cement and cover with vinyl as you've done. The headliner (as you know) has compound/complex curves. You can use a blow drier to help Formica bend to make those curves (the ones at the front) look right. I would not use aluminum on the headliner.

You can also still get upholstery grade fiberboard (here: https://www.perfectfit.com/15347/Chipboard-Car-Panelboard.html ) but the non-waterproof board must be sealed on both sides and at all edges well or it will shrink and warp.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287044
Sun Nov 11 2018 09:14 PM
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Isn’t Formica extremely brittle?🛠


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287060
Sun Nov 11 2018 11:36 PM
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I will give the Formica a try.... where do I find it?

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287071
Mon Nov 12 2018 12:26 AM
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You can get Formica at almost any hardware store.

I used Formica to make washers to go between the vinyl upholstery and the window and door cranks. I drilled holes in the Formica with a 2.25" hole saw. I then smoothed the edges of the cut outs and drilled them to fit over the shafts. The washers protect the vinyl upholstery from chafing.

We used plywood "door skins" for the panels. Thin foam was glued to the plywood and the vinyl stretched over and glued on the back side. It worked OK, but I like the suggestions above more. If you do use door skins, note that the plywood bends easier in one direction than in the other. Make sure you orient the plywood the correct way. Of course, we did it wrong. dang


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287085
Mon Nov 12 2018 01:43 AM
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I may give it a try for roof and door skins. My skins and ceiling are falling apart after 1 year!

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287112
Mon Nov 12 2018 04:45 AM
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Formica is brittle but is more flexible than one might think. Please take a look at this scrap piece (which is 16" x 4") lying flat:
https://beta.photobucket.com/u/JonGoodman/p/67afae92-7408-4e27-8236-756b9c41d7cb
And here I have it sitting on a 2.5 inch tall piece of metal and I'm forcing it flat down on the table (making the bend around 30 ~ 35 degrees):
https://beta.photobucket.com/u/JonGoodman/p/de06daff-ddbd-4709-b4df-4bb67ff4979c
And here I am wrapping that same piece around the windshield trim molding (the one with the sharp bend):
https://beta.photobucket.com/u/JonGoodman/p/1fa19108-e620-48ef-bc04-e9696cff2e2b

As I said if you heat it with a blow dryer it becomes even more pliable. I'm certain there are instructions on the internet about this.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287114
Mon Nov 12 2018 05:33 AM
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I plan on trying to cover it with something, probably black vinyl like my seats. We shall see how this goes, I am debating on making the roof one piece or 2 pieces. if I glue 2 pieces up there, I can still cover it easily, thoughts?

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287123
Mon Nov 12 2018 12:34 PM
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Never though of formica, maybe that will even be better/cheaper than sheet aluminum, certainly cheaper for sure. Thinking of trying that on the roof panels because of the curves, thanks for that idea.
Building the roof panel in two pieces seems easier and will appear correct too. Plus you only handle and fit a smaller piece. Yeah, I'm really liking that idea. Thanks guys (Jon G.).

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: Gord&Fran] #1287125
Mon Nov 12 2018 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord&Fran
You can get Formica at almost any hardware store.

I used Formica to make washers to go between the vinyl upholstery and the window and door cranks. I drilled holes in the Formica with a 2.25" hole saw. I then smoothed the edges of the cut outs and drilled them to fit over the shafts. The washers protect the vinyl upholstery from chafing.

We used plywood "door skins" for the panels. Thin foam was glued to the plywood and the vinyl stretched over and glued on the back side. It worked OK, but I like the suggestions above more. If you do use door skins, note that the plywood bends easier in one direction than in the other. Make sure you orient the plywood the correct way. Of course, we did it wrong. dang

Super idea for crank washers, liking this much better than the cardboard ones.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287157
Mon Nov 12 2018 03:56 PM
Mon Nov 12 2018 03:56 PM
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I may try to find aluminum sheet which is thin enough to fold the maroon vinyl over the edge, but still fit inside of the metal retainer. This will keep the vinyl from letting go of the glue and coming out of the edge of the retainer like mine always seem to do. The maroon vinyl which Jim Carter sells has extra material around the edge so that you could do this.
Carl

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287158
Mon Nov 12 2018 04:01 PM
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I found black Formica that I may try for roof so that I don’t have to put vinyl over it.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: ndkid275] #1287163
Mon Nov 12 2018 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ndkid275
I plan on trying to cover it with something, probably black vinyl like my seats. We shall see how this goes, I am debating on making the roof one piece or 2 pieces. if I glue 2 pieces up there, I can still cover it easily, thoughts?


If you have the center bow and rear retaining cover for the headliner, everything will work as it should. That center bow has a front and rear slot and the rear retainer is held in place with screws. Cover the Formica or paint it before you install it. If you use vinyl, I'd try to use a thinner vinyl than what is on your seat. Then install the rear section first and secure it with the rear retainer. The bow will slip in place next. This requires a bit of coordination and a helper might be good also. Then slip the front piece into the front bow slot and secure it with the windshield trim after you get it in place. If you have a shade flap, measure and carefully cut the holes for it before you mount the panel (this can be difficult so do take your time). One way is to attach double sided tape (on which the holes have been cut out already) to the place on the body where the flap will mount, press the headliner panel in and then remove it to cut the holes. Hint: on the side of the double sided tape that sticks to the body...stick this somewhere on your face first. The oil will cause it to just "sort of" stick and then it will stick more firmly to the headliner panel when you remove it. Oh, and also...big important note...this job goes better if you remove the windlace and replace it once you're finished. It really is not fun trying to get the headliner panel on the other side of that windlace rubber.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287800
Sat Nov 17 2018 05:40 AM
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ndkid275  Online
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Just purchased some Formica to see how well it works. Fingers crossed!

Chris

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287899
Sun Nov 18 2018 12:04 AM
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Jon G  Offline
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I'm sure you'll do fine. Here's a tip: get a jig saw (we used to call them saber saws also) and a fine metal cutting blade. Work carefully cutting the stuff and go slowly. If it is important to you to keep the front side from chipping when it is cut, get 1/4 inch plywood and clamp your Formica between two sheets of it. We used to do that for small or thin pieces. Did I mention go slowly?


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287916
Sun Nov 18 2018 01:01 AM
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Good info Jon, for tight curves and the door and window crank holes use a dremmel.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287985
Sun Nov 18 2018 07:29 PM
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I used black Formica/Aborite. I made a template of the panel with plywood, clamped the laminate to the plywood and used a router with a laminate bit with an edge guide. Because I needed black, I used the Formica as is.


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it.
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1287996
Sun Nov 18 2018 10:15 PM
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Nice job on the door panels. I did basically the same thing on my 1952 3100. I did bend the aluminum to conform to the curve present in both my doors and door panel frames. It seems to be a much more pronounced crease in my truck then your 1953. I thought they were the same. I used the same covering as the seat and did take the vinyl over the edge. Tight fit in the frame but it worked. I have tried to attach a picture but not sure it will work.

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1288027
Mon Nov 19 2018 03:27 AM
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Achipmunk  Offline
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I'm even rethinking my panels................Steve, see what you got started.


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1952 Chevy Panel
Pictures in my Photobucket
1950 Chevy Coupe

52 Chevy Panel

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: Rusty Shackleford] #1288042
Mon Nov 19 2018 04:41 AM
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Jon G  Offline
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
I used black Formica/Aborite. I made a template of the panel with plywood, clamped the laminate to the plywood and used a router with a laminate bit with an edge guide. Because I needed black, I used the Formica as is.


That's right! If you have a router and a ball bearing laminate bit, it makes the work slick and quick. Just be certain to use the straight bit and not the edge bit...


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1288074
Mon Nov 19 2018 03:37 PM
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ABS here.

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1288142
Tue Nov 20 2018 02:34 AM
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nice door panels!
i was also concerned with the cardboard door panels i ordered online, so i did an intermediate fix, i just glued some old vinyl school bus seat material to the cardboard before installing the metal trim, time will tell if that's sufficient
but if i do it again i'm gonna go this aluminum sheet method, many more seats in the school bus to cut vinyl from, and two colors to choose from, grey or traditional brown smile

about the roof... yeah... i did such a bad job on the roof, but in my defense, it was my first one, i did it alone, it's a work truck so it didn't need to be show quality
i'm sure the second time will be much better smile
-s


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290459
Mon Dec 10 2018 01:11 AM
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I just cut and made the two roof panels in Formica. I might attemp to install the tomorrow night. I hope to get door seals in place so I can pick my wife up from the airport on the 20th. I will post pictures

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290705
Tue Dec 11 2018 10:26 PM
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Hey Chris,

Let's see those pics! I've been struggling with the door panels too. This past summer I replaced the door panels (purchased from a preferred vendor). They looked okay for a while, but the top corners kind of puckered when I tightened them. I just noticed the the driver's side panel is creeping out of the SS frame.

Are you guys over-sizing these custom made panels?

I appreciate all the dialog this thread has created. There are some great ideas out there on door panels.

Thanks,


Andy

His: 1947 Chevrolet 3100
Hers: 2008 American Saddlebred

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290727
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I am trying to get it put in ASAP. I am considering putting aluminum panels behind the Formica for the door panels to stiffen it up.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290748
Wed Dec 12 2018 04:17 AM
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Hint...if you're using fiberboard panels, consider putting a rubber faucet washer (3/4" diameter) behind each trim screw so the force of the screws doesn't pull them inward too much and deform them.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: Jon G] #1290981
Thu Dec 13 2018 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon G
Hint...if you're using fiberboard panels, consider putting a rubber faucet washer (3/4" diameter) behind each trim screw so the force of the screws doesn't pull them inward too much and deform them.

Jon G, thanks for the tip! In my case, I actually thought about something like that. At least my hindsight is 20/20!! wink


Andy

His: 1947 Chevrolet 3100
Hers: 2008 American Saddlebred

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290988
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Front panel is in! Looks great!


Edited: added pictures of back panel. I like it, not too bad, had one minor issue with mid measurement. The other was accidentally dropping the heat gun on my ankle. Had to yell without moving and dropping the panel. FYI, I yelled like a ****!

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1290998
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Jon G  Offline
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That looks super! Good work and you didn't have to paint that, did you?


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291001
Fri Dec 14 2018 12:55 AM
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HandyAndy  Offline
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Nice work, Chris!

That really turned out great. Any issues with cutting the Formica? What did you use for the pattern?

Keep us posted on the door panels too. I've never cut sheet aluminum before and I suppose there's a preferred technique.

Thanks for sharing,


Andy

His: 1947 Chevrolet 3100
Hers: 2008 American Saddlebred

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291013
Fri Dec 14 2018 03:09 AM
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So here is what I did.

Since I had cardboard that was falling apart, I used that as a template and adjusted it as needed since my truck isn’t square. Next, I used a drummel with cutting wheel to follow the line (very slow). Finally, held it close and heated the ends to mold it as needed. No painting!

Things I recommend. Make back panel longer due to cross member support. It slides in farther than I excepted. My cardboard must not have been slide in far enough.

If you get the 4x8 piece you can do both doors and roof panels.

I will post more once I do side panels. I am debating on doubling up Formica instead of aluminum.

Chris

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291028
Fri Dec 14 2018 05:04 AM
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Anyone know how the cardboard kick panels are attached? Just curious since I have extra Formica that I might as well use.

Chris

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291141
Sat Dec 15 2018 01:10 AM
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I don't know Chris. I've owned a few of these trucks and none had kick panels of any sort. They were all just painted. I always paint the interiors in catalyzed enamel or catalyzed urethane help keep from scuffing as much. The first one I saw with kick panels may have been in the early 1960s. A friend bought a 1965 brand new and got the deluxe model...it had A/C and kick panels. One of the nicest pickups I've ever seen until he traded it in on a 1968. Gas mileage was comically bad but you could ride in the thing all day long and not be tired.


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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291172
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Jon,

I have mine painted, I was just curious to see what it would look like and how they actually did it.

Chris

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291294
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FYI, trying to get the visor screws in the right spot cracks the Formica easily!

Chris

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291340
Sun Dec 16 2018 06:46 PM
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Time and vibration will end up doing the same.

Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291803
Thu Dec 20 2018 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sstock
I ordered 2 pieces of 12" by 36" sheet aluminum that is .050 thick from McMaster Carr and a roll of maroon vinyl from Jim Carter. I then removed the old panel and traced it over the aluminum sheet with a sharpy. Cut out the aluminum with a nice new metal blade for thin metal with a jigsaw and then drilled the appropriate mounting holes on my drill press. Did a quick test fit.


Steve,

Nice work on those door panels. I'm basically in the same boat with my door panels. I've ordered the .050" aluminum and have the material to cover the panels. Here's a couple questions for you:

Did you cut the aluminum panel the same size as the cardboard? I was thinking about adding 1/16" all the way around to keep the panel in the frame.

Did you have to clamp the aluminum when you cut it with the jig saw? It seems like it could jump around a bit or wander.

Thanks,


Andy

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1291809
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No, the aluminum is cut the same size as the replacement cardboard door panels, I would be careful about cutting it oversize, worrying that the metal frame would not go around. I did clamp it along a piece of 3/4" plywood and used a fine tooth metal jig saw blade. Another thing I did that I forgot to mention was place 2ea 3/8"thick hard bumpers above each door handle mechanism to give it enough clearance between the sheet aluminum and handle mechanism,otherwise the door handle will not want to return on its own after opening the door. The other fellow above bent his sheet aluminum to fit over the door handle mechanism.

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Fri Dec 21 2018 10:17 PM
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the arm rests are made of oak with the same merlot stain as the 3/8 beadboard

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Just got completed with the Formica door panels! Looks really good. Placed rubber washers behind it so I didn’t break it.

Chris

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sstock, thanks for the tip!

The .050" aluminum really worked out nice for me. I still have quite a bit work to do on my interior, but this is a great start.

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Re: Tired of Ugly Door Panels for AD Trucks [Re: sstock] #1309902
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Well done Andy, looks so much better than cardboard.

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