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Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283130
Wed Oct 10 2018 02:30 AM
Wed Oct 10 2018 02:30 AM
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Gord&Fran  Offline
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Also, you don't need a BitTorrent client to download Linux. There are plenty of servers that allow anonymous access so you can download the iso file. These can be used for system updates too.

distrowatch is hepful: DistroWatch


Gord
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Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283149
Wed Oct 10 2018 07:59 AM
Wed Oct 10 2018 07:59 AM
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Thanks Jon, I will probably at some point will want to ask a question or two. I am quickly learning that the difference between Windows and Linux, or even Linux and Linux can be daunting it you let it, so my attitude at this point is: what the hell lets see what happens....

I already have the iso for Mint 19 64 bit and plan on looking at 32 bit alternatives for the laptops. While I was at a friends house today getting the mint ISO copy I ended up buying a HP Pavilloin HPE with Windows 10 Professional, MS Office 2010 suite installed,a 4 core Intel processor, 8GB of RAM, BLU -Ray / DVD burner, 2TB hard drive, 24" HDMI HD monitor , and wireless mouse and keyboard from her at the fire sale price of $250. I was so excited that I stopped and bought a Linksys Wi-Fi router for my satellite internet modem.

That probably explains why I am writing forum responses at almost 4 AM but its all set up and integrated into my home network......

Mint should run with joy on this one. I am doing a dual boot install but not until I get some sleep....lol


Gord thanks for your input as well. Based on your observations I am going to run the 32 bit install on the laptop and hope for some help from the Leprechauns

Last edited by Xena; Wed Oct 10 2018 08:02 AM.

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Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283156
Wed Oct 10 2018 11:56 AM
Wed Oct 10 2018 11:56 AM
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Jon G  Online OP
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That's a great deal on the HP Pavillion, Xena. The best I have is an older Intel dual core, but for what I do it is ok. Any operating system should run fine on the HP. Please let me know what you find and how Mint works for you.


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Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283201
Wed Oct 10 2018 06:00 PM
Wed Oct 10 2018 06:00 PM
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Just for fun, I installed Manjaro on the old Acer. I'm impressed how well it works on that thing. Pretty complete distro. However, I will stick with Mint as there is a lot of support for it. You want to get any security patches ASAP.


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Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283888
Wed Oct 17 2018 02:58 AM
Wed Oct 17 2018 02:58 AM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Well, Xena all the Linux systems I've seen are fairly watertight. I mean, basically it comes down to a matter of permission and all. Microsoft thinks it is cool to get into your system and make changes, tweaks, etc and Microsoft naturally and from the get-go enables users with all sorts of authority and everything. They give you the gun, the bullets and let you decide what to do next. Linux tends to keep the handcuffs on users a bit more and it must be said it takes a lot of effort to execute a dangerous file. In Windows a couple of innocent witless clicks and you can have the whole thing unraveling irreversibly in a few seconds. In a Linux environment you'd have to be (a) pretty doggone drunk and (b) pretty hell-bent on ignoring a boat load of warnings before you got into that kind of trouble. Besides Linux has what...5% of the market? Something like that. So it is sort of like trying to pick the pockets of homeless tent dwellers and I'd imagine few hackers spend much of their time on it. Unless they're not very good at hacking and in that case I can assure you they won't be able to outsmart the people writing Linux.

As for installing, yes...burn the ISO onto a DVD. If you need that ISO file conversion program please let me know. Most of the distros are straightforward. Also let me know if you need any info on WINE. I think it is pretty well known now and probably is already threaded into Mint, but it is useful if you have any MS programs you want to use.

Windows 10 isn't the worst thing but it isn't the best either. Some people like it. Others just use it because prior versions are ending their support life and all.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: A Look Inside A Linux Alternative... [Re: Jon G] #1283895
Wed Oct 17 2018 03:56 AM
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We have been discussing Linux advantages. I should probably point out a couple of things that have caused me a little bit of grief. (and the workarounds)

1. I have a Logitech Harmony remote for my TV, A/V receiver, etc. Logitech's software only works on Windows or OS X. It didn't work with WinXP running in a VirtualBox machine. Now, to update my remote, I have to borrow my wife's hackintosh. (annoying that Logitech HAD cloud based software, but they discontinued it; a really big step backward IMO)

2. The income tax software I had been using for years would only work with Windows. I was able to run it successfully in a VirtualBox environment, but a couple of years ago the software company decided that they would no longer provide WinXP support. I didn't want to build a Win7 or Win8 virtual machine just for one piece of software, so I switched to a cloud based application instead.


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