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Barn Door Glass #1281473
Tue Sep 25 2018 04:22 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 04:22 PM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Posts: 344
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My glass guy says they make rear barn door glass rubber seal that is one-piece, much like a windshield rubber. He prefers it. I've never seen it, just the bulk roll type that leaves a gap where the ends meet. Anyone know where/who sells one-piece barn door glass?


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1281481
Tue Sep 25 2018 05:33 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 05:33 PM
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bartamos  Offline
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,753
State48 Ranch
Steele Rubber co.


1960 GMC K1001 (The Oreo SpeedWagon)
To each his own or the Highway.
All I know is what the voices in my head tell me and a little from watching TV.



Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1281483
Tue Sep 25 2018 06:10 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 06:10 PM
tclederman  Offline

Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,459
Jarvisburg, NC


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1281484
Tue Sep 25 2018 06:14 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 06:14 PM
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stan barrington  Offline
New Guy
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 19
Phoenix AZ
I put a set on recently and it made a difference. I used low stick tape to keep inner contact areas from pinching or "rolling over" when closing the door.Then "released" the tape ends allowing the seal to return to its natural position.As stated elsewhere,leave it sit closed for several days.

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1288404
Thu Nov 22 2018 01:32 PM
Thu Nov 22 2018 01:32 PM
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wave1957  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 259
Formerly Calgary, Alberta, now...
I know Steele makes good stuff, but I had to gasp when I saw the price! Couldn't they sell any more money? I will keep on living with the gap at the end of my old, dry rubbers...


'57 Chevy Suburban sometimes towing a 1950 24ft Spartan trailer; '70 Chevy Impala.
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1288425
Thu Nov 22 2018 03:24 PM
Thu Nov 22 2018 03:24 PM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,520
So Cal
Thanks to Crazy Glue, no gaps here.

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Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: MNSmith] #1288598
Sat Nov 24 2018 02:23 AM
Sat Nov 24 2018 02:23 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Originally Posted by MNSmith
Thanks to Crazy Glue, no gaps here.


Nice! Did you glue the ends together?



1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1288665
Sun Nov 25 2018 02:28 AM
Sun Nov 25 2018 02:28 AM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,520
So Cal
Yes.

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1291591
Tue Dec 18 2018 10:47 AM
Tue Dec 18 2018 10:47 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Well I attempted to rope in my rear barn door glass today; the rubber was exceedingly tight and tore within a couple of inches. I suspect cold weather may have contributed to the failure by making the rubber hard and inflexible. I ordered another set of seals (this is getting expensive) and will try it again with more lubrication and some pre-heating.

And thanks Mark, Krazy Glue bonds the ends together excellently!


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1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1291598
Tue Dec 18 2018 02:11 PM
Tue Dec 18 2018 02:11 PM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,520
So Cal
My original rubbers from Classic were tough and tore when I installed them. When I repainted the doors, the next set I got from classic were soft and worked great.

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1291895
Fri Dec 21 2018 07:33 AM
Fri Dec 21 2018 07:33 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Posts: 344
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I ordered the high-priced rear window seals from Steele - what a difference! Soft, supple and a perfect fit. I anticipate a much easier installation. Will post my results. But at these prices, you sure don't want to damage them!


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1292890
Mon Dec 31 2018 01:24 AM
Mon Dec 31 2018 01:24 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Posts: 344
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Conclusion: I roped in my rear glass today. What before was impossible with the cheap, rigid, generic rubber seals, was easy with the quality units from Steele - even for a first-timer like me.


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Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1292904
Mon Dec 31 2018 05:14 AM
Mon Dec 31 2018 05:14 AM
MNSmith  Offline
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,520
So Cal
Looks good!!

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1293075
Tue Jan 01 2019 05:59 AM
Tue Jan 01 2019 05:59 AM
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bowtietim  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,536
Kansas
It's amazing how quality products make a job so much easier. I used the one piece rubbers from Steele rubber as well.
Looks great !!


"A house is built with boards and beams,a home is built with love and dreams"

Look deep before you leep !!!

"Everything is Everything"

"If I say a mouse can pull a house,Hitch him up"

My 1951 3100 Chevrolet
My 1951 Chevrolet Suburban Carryall

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: bowtietim] #1293217
Wed Jan 02 2019 10:29 AM
Wed Jan 02 2019 10:29 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Posts: 344
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Originally Posted by bowtietim
Looks great !!


Thanks. Your Suburban is gorgeous.


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1293246
Wed Jan 02 2019 03:32 PM
Wed Jan 02 2019 03:32 PM
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bowtietim  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,536
Kansas
Thanks, i hope to get my headliner in this winter/spring.
Keep the progress photos coming.

Tim


"A house is built with boards and beams,a home is built with love and dreams"

Look deep before you leep !!!

"Everything is Everything"

"If I say a mouse can pull a house,Hitch him up"

My 1951 3100 Chevrolet
My 1951 Chevrolet Suburban Carryall

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1296440
Sun Jan 27 2019 03:51 PM
Sun Jan 27 2019 03:51 PM
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49bourbon  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 438
Denton,TX
Steele is pricey but the quality is worth the money. if you think the gasket will be there for next 20+ years with no leaks it doesn't sting as much. Plus in the grand scheme of dollars to it costs to refurb a suburban its a small expense.


Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle."-Abraham Lincoln

Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: 49bourbon] #1296804
Wed Jan 30 2019 02:19 AM
Wed Jan 30 2019 02:19 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Posts: 344
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Mixed feelings. Yeah, they worked great but I still feel like I got taken.


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1296855
Wed Jan 30 2019 01:17 PM
Wed Jan 30 2019 01:17 PM
tclederman  Offline

Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,459
Jarvisburg, NC
By whom did you get taken?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: tclederman] #1297088
Thu Jan 31 2019 10:08 PM
Thu Jan 31 2019 10:08 PM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 344
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About 10 feet of extruded rubber for $115 will give anyone pause to question the wisdom of their purchase, and perhaps the morality of the company that sold them.


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1297104
Fri Feb 01 2019 12:38 AM
Fri Feb 01 2019 12:38 AM
tclederman  Offline

Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,459
Jarvisburg, NC
I was just asking: by whom did you get taken by:
- the first vendor?
- the second vendor?
- both vendors?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1297122
Fri Feb 01 2019 02:40 AM
Fri Feb 01 2019 02:40 AM
Achipmunk  Offline
Extreme Gabster
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,597
Boiling Springs, S. C. 29316
I spoke some time ago by my personal visits to Steele and even ventured to ask them if they'd be interested in a Stovebolt discount for our members. Said NO. I also mentioned they do not "personally" make all their products, who really does? and therefore they are at the mercy of those who make it. My real expensive windshield gasket for my 37 was pitiful...... I actually put the "cheap" one on and it works great.
....i will stop here because as before, even speaking facts, I was hailed as "vendor bashing".

The take here is sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but for me and my money I have found I can do just as good elsewhere.
(price the wing vent rubber!) nooo way!


1937 Chevy Pickup
1952 Chevy Panel
Pictures in my Photobucket
1950 Chevy Coupe

52 Chevy Panel

I'd rather walk and carry a Chevy hub cap than ride in a Ferd.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you smile
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: tclederman] #1297143
Fri Feb 01 2019 07:40 AM
Fri Feb 01 2019 07:40 AM
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miraclepieco  Offline OP
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 344
OR
Originally Posted by tclederman
I was just asking: by whom did you get taken:
- the first vendor?
- the second vendor?
- both vendors?


First reply edited. Pardon my sensitivity Tim; clearly I was still smarting from my frustration with the imbalance between function and price of such a seemingly simple item.

Now that you asked, I'd have to say "both vendors" - each offers products that are unsatisfactory, just in different respects.


1951 Chevy Panel Truck
Re: Barn Door Glass [Re: miraclepieco] #1297156
Fri Feb 01 2019 02:51 PM
Fri Feb 01 2019 02:51 PM
tclederman  Offline

Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,459
Jarvisburg, NC
I completely understand.
No offense taken.

That price is incredibly high.
But, the alternatives seem to be inadequate?

That makes us “captive buyers”?
As you posted, we do not have to like this.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
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