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Probably a dumb question- - - - - #1275961
Sun Aug 12 2018 03:29 PM
Sun Aug 12 2018 03:29 PM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Offline OP
Boltergeist
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 18,559
Dellrose, TN
Has anyone ever tried using a piece of marine-grade plywood that fits a stovebolt bed, and simply cutting precise grooves with a router to accommodate the metal hold-down strips? I've never done it, but it would seem to be a viable alternative to hassling with multiple pieces of wood, and unless someone is some sort of anal-retentive purist, the end result would seem to be the same. I'm suggesting marine-grade plywood rather than exterior because marine plywood has no voids anywhere, while plain old exterior can expose openings that could trap moisture when being cut to fit. The glue is supposedly the same (waterproof) but marine ply is designed to stay wet for extended periods of time.

Just a thought- - - - -comments?
Jerry


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1275965
Sun Aug 12 2018 03:55 PM
Sun Aug 12 2018 03:55 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
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Posts: 7,268
El Reno, Okla
Jerry, yes it has been done. Saw it several years ago on one of the car/truck shows on TV. Too long ago for me to remember which one.


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1275973
Sun Aug 12 2018 05:27 PM
Sun Aug 12 2018 05:27 PM
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Mar-Ktech  Offline
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Oklahoma City
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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276000
Sun Aug 12 2018 10:44 PM
Sun Aug 12 2018 10:44 PM
John Milliman  Offline
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Posts: 4,093
St. Mary's Co., MD
Jerry -- I did my '39 bed that way ...

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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276036
Mon Aug 13 2018 02:49 AM
Mon Aug 13 2018 02:49 AM
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52Carl  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,966
Virginia
My buddy has a panel truck and it has the original plywood bed with the bed strips on it. The older panels (not sure what years) had wood like the pickups, but there was an issue with exhaust fumes coming through the cracks.
BTW, there is no need to for creating any grooves in the plywood. The bed strips will lay flat on the plywood.
Carl

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276062
Mon Aug 13 2018 12:58 PM
Mon Aug 13 2018 12:58 PM
tclederman  Offline
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Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
As Carl posted:

In 1950, “. . . the floor boards of panel and canopy express models were changed to plywood construction. In the new construction a single panel of wood and five skid strips replaced thirteen floor boards and twelve skid strips. The new floor was positively sealed against dust leakage and the plywood made the floor 25 to 30% stronger than the former construction.” (from an article in the light commercial vehicle association, 1984)


Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
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- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276500
Thu Aug 16 2018 03:02 AM
Thu Aug 16 2018 03:02 AM
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52Carl  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,966
Virginia
The hard part will be to find a sheet of plywood over 48" wide and 6 or 8 feet long.

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276514
Thu Aug 16 2018 03:39 AM
Thu Aug 16 2018 03:39 AM
Achipmunk  Offline
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Boiling Springs, S. C. 29316
Order the oversize at your local lumber yard......Lowes/Home Depot.


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276527
Thu Aug 16 2018 12:06 PM
Thu Aug 16 2018 12:06 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
Or, if a boat repair shop is nearby (or, if your lumber yard is flexible/helpful), get a large enough sheet of appropriate thickness marine ply/grade plywood.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1276576
Thu Aug 16 2018 08:28 PM
Thu Aug 16 2018 08:28 PM
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66flea  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 128
Williston Park, N.Y..
I did it five years ago when I first started with my 55.1 3600. I used a standard marine plywood from home depot (48"x96") cut it into four pieces (two at 6 3/4 " and two at 16 3/4") I only had enough rotten metal strips to make three complete strips. no grooves and no sealer because it was supposed to be temporary. five years later and outside in New York weather every night and day and used for light cargo with leaves and bird droppings and never washed I can honestly say I'm impressed with how well it held up

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1284403
Mon Oct 22 2018 12:28 AM
Mon Oct 22 2018 12:28 AM
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Steve_H  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,722
Ut
With the bedside strips welded in place. I would rip the plywood into 2 parts. It would make the install a bit less frustrating.. The gap in the middle would be covered by the normal metal strip and no one would ever know.


Steve H
Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1295109
Wed Jan 16 2019 11:15 PM
Wed Jan 16 2019 11:15 PM
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Spotbiltxo  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,164
San Antonio, Texas, USA
I actually like Jerry’s idea. If you’re not a purist, and you’re just looking for performance and durability, a sheet of stained marine plywood would work really well. 52Carl says there’s no need to route the grooves ‘cause the strips will lay flat. If that’s the case then that’s an extra bonus!


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1296544
Mon Jan 28 2019 01:58 AM
Mon Jan 28 2019 01:58 AM
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J Lucas  Offline
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Posts: 1,471
South Omaha, Nebraska
Without grooves, the metal strips will be on top of and therefore sitting above the wood. Seems to me that the strips should be either flush or slightly below the bed wood.

John


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1296567
Mon Jan 28 2019 04:25 AM
Mon Jan 28 2019 04:25 AM
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Fibonachu  Offline
New Guy
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 19
ID
I really like this idea. I might have to steal it.

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: J Lucas] #1297208
Sat Feb 02 2019 12:37 AM
Sat Feb 02 2019 12:37 AM
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52Carl  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,966
Virginia
Originally Posted by J Lucas
Seems to me that the strips should be either flush or slightly below the bed wood.

John

Why would that be? Aren't the strips designed to protect the wood while sliding cargo in and out?
Carl

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1297216
Sat Feb 02 2019 01:36 AM
Sat Feb 02 2019 01:36 AM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,911
Jarvisburg, NC
Carl is correct.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1297375
Sun Feb 03 2019 02:46 AM
Sun Feb 03 2019 02:46 AM
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52Carl  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,966
Virginia
So the question may remain as to why is the bed wood of the pickup trucks notched for the bed strips?
My guess is to contain the edges of wood, preventing separation from shrinkage during dry weather.
Why would GM notch the plywood beds? Maybe to maintain the exact distance between the top of the strips and the plywood so that it looks just like a pickup bed?

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1305692
Tue Apr 02 2019 01:21 PM
Tue Apr 02 2019 01:21 PM
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Phak1  Offline
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 72
Upstate NY
This may be a bit late in the conversation, but if you look at the way the notches and strips mate, I suspect that they are made they hold down the planks but allow expansion and contraction so they don’t warp. Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1311236
Mon May 20 2019 03:25 AM
Mon May 20 2019 03:25 AM
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scout4924  Offline
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 35
Ia
WOW, love this site! I was planning on oak from a logger in the fam. $100.00 would have been a bit much for my 40' Midwest, prior resto, dirt road beater! I'm going with the ply-board. I was thinking 5/4ths deck boards as an alt.

Re: Probably a dumb question- - - - - [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1311323
Mon May 20 2019 10:42 PM
Mon May 20 2019 10:42 PM
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WE b OLD  Offline
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Posts: 6,336
marion, in. usa
I was thinking of using marine grade plywood to build a slide out using casters in the metal strips so I would not have to crawl under the bed cover to retrieve things that I have in the bed. I bought low profile casters for another project that did not work out.


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