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1958 1-ton Project Truck #1273780
Wed Jul 25 2018 07:59 PM
Wed Jul 25 2018 07:59 PM
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Possum  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 49
BCS, Texas
Here's my '58 3800 that has the 9 foot bed option on it. I bought it a few months ago in hopes of breathing some life back into it!

From what I can tell, it had a rough life as a farm truck. Bad rust, bondo, mis-matched parts, and a few accidents here and there. The hood and passenger side fender are off a '59 truck, and I think the cab is not original as well. The 235 might be toast, oil smells kinda burnt...

I've dissembled most of the truck and picked up a few parts for it already. I have a couple engine choices in mind for it, but that'll be down the road. Thinking about lowering it just a bit too, like flip the rear axle and put a drop axle up front.

The pics here show how it looked before disassembly, and its current state.

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A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!
1949 3100
1955.5 3100
1958 3800 1-ton with 9 foot bed
1959 Spartan 100 winch truck
and various other future projects
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1274428
Tue Jul 31 2018 01:14 AM
Tue Jul 31 2018 01:14 AM
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fourspeedwagon  Offline
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 65
high desert of Wa state
Like the loooong boxes- not too sure myself about lowering a heavy duty truck, but what you do isn’t up to me.
What are you thinking for the drivetrain?
Have fun.


1951 GMC 250 Open Express
1947 Chevrolet Deluxe Panel

My Dad told me "Son, never hit a man in anger- unless you're certain you can get away with it"
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: fourspeedwagon] #1274604
Wed Aug 01 2018 03:16 PM
Wed Aug 01 2018 03:16 PM
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Possum  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 49
BCS, Texas
I'm on the fence about lowering the truck, it won't be too much of a drop if I do so. I plan on using the truck as a truck once its running and driving and legal.

As for the drivetrain, I'm not sure yet, currently doing some research to see what other rear ends could fit.


A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!
1949 3100
1955.5 3100
1958 3800 1-ton with 9 foot bed
1959 Spartan 100 winch truck
and various other future projects
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1276564
Thu Aug 16 2018 07:27 PM
Thu Aug 16 2018 07:27 PM
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Possum  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 49
BCS, Texas
Update on the truck:

A few weeks back I scored a cab, front clip, 2 doors, and 2 hoods on Craigslist for a great price! https://beta-static.photobucket.com...idth=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds
The original cab is far too rusty to repair and would be too costly for me. The 'new' cab is in better condition, but still will need a bit of work.

Also my dad picked up a supposedly 383 stroker for real cheap from one of his friends. We'll have to open it up and see how it is in the inside. I'd like to put it in the truck, but not quite sure yet.

Now, as for the rear end. The truck still has the factory 8 lug 5.14 ratio axle. How stout is the factory axle? Would a 14 bolt be a good swap for a Taskforce era truck? I still would like to run the SM420 trans for the time being.


A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!
1949 3100
1955.5 3100
1958 3800 1-ton with 9 foot bed
1959 Spartan 100 winch truck
and various other future projects
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1276603
Thu Aug 16 2018 11:54 PM
Thu Aug 16 2018 11:54 PM
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Dhalldens1960  Offline
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 46
Winston Salem, NC
Gotta love them trucks. Looking forward to seeing pics as it comes along.


Don't tweet, face, Google, or link. Just hanging in as long as I can...
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1276666
Fri Aug 17 2018 01:51 PM
Fri Aug 17 2018 01:51 PM
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Grigg  Offline
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,957
Lexington, VA
I bet the 14 bolt is still a good swap, check the original axle width and compare with info in the 14 bolt sticky thread.


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1276706
Fri Aug 17 2018 09:29 PM
Fri Aug 17 2018 09:29 PM
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Possum  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 49
BCS, Texas
Originally Posted by Grigg
I bet the 14 bolt is still a good swap, check the original axle width and compare with info in the 14 bolt sticky thread.


Thanks Grigg! I've read though that thread a few times now to figure out what I need to search for.
The spring perches on the original axle measure a little over 40". The width for the original axle is very similar to a 14 bolt out of a C&C, its just a tad wider.

And it hit me yesterday, I know of a salvage yard with a mid-70s Chevy towtruck that might have one under it. Hopefully the truck is still there, was 2 months ago when I saw it.


A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!
1949 3100
1955.5 3100
1958 3800 1-ton with 9 foot bed
1959 Spartan 100 winch truck
and various other future projects
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1276735
Sat Aug 18 2018 02:24 AM
Sat Aug 18 2018 02:24 AM
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Grigg  Offline
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,957
Lexington, VA
Might check condition of the spindles, a heavily used axle may have spun races on the spindles.
I’ve bought several axles with various more or less non repairable issues before finding a real nice one.

RV’s can have them too, and frequently don’t see very many miles.


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1283202
Wed Oct 10 2018 06:06 PM
Wed Oct 10 2018 06:06 PM
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Possum  Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 49
BCS, Texas
Update!

Slowly but surely, I'm making progress. Cab along with the engine/tranny is ready to come off the frame, then the fun job of scrapping and chiseling the decades of grease and oil off the frame. Doors are off with the glass and internals removed to be saved for the other doors I plan on using. https://beta-static.photobucket.com...idth=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds

Also I scored a passenger side emblem at a flea market! Been hunting for one of these grin
https://beta-static.photobucket.com...idth=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds


A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!
1949 3100
1955.5 3100
1958 3800 1-ton with 9 foot bed
1959 Spartan 100 winch truck
and various other future projects
Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck [Re: Possum] #1283282
Thu Oct 11 2018 11:19 AM
Thu Oct 11 2018 11:19 AM
John Milliman  Offline
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Joined: Nov 1995
Posts: 4,093
St. Mary's Co., MD
Thanks for the update! Cool project. May we assume that you've scrapped the idea about lowering it??


John

'49 Chevrolet 3804
'70 Boston Whaler Sakonnet w/ '84 Evinrude 90
'85 Ford F-350 "The Farm Dawg"

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