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Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
#1273575 Tue Jul 24 2018 12:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
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Extreme Gabster
So Old Blue, my 3600 Stovebolt, came complete with four pretty badly worn tires on the
original split rims and all four original hub caps. Pretty common with most of these original
medium duty Stovebolts
Since I’m a 95% purist, I spent a couple days breaking down those darn split rims
took them to the sand blaster, painted them with some good PPG enamel and bought
four new bias ply’s, tubes and flaps and let the tire dealer mount and balance them for me.
The were used to the split rims because they did a lot of farm and truck business.
Well…..after that first year of tooth jarring startups because of the bias ply’s, I started my
search for some new rubber. New rubber meant the split rims had to go, so….I found some
’80 GM 16.5” rims and mounted up some new Cooper radial’s. What a world of difference
in the ride. Problem now was I couldn’t use my original hubcaps with these modern
GM rims.
Easy solution, I got clips from one of the vendors and along with some round stock
standoff’s I turned in the lathe and some 10-32 screws, I mounted the clips. They worked
great for almost 10 years, never lost a hub cap.
But…..I still felt the ride could be a little better and tires for the 16.5” rims were by now
getting pretty hard to find and were quite limited, besides, if I had a blowout it would be
a real pain in the ars finding a new 16.5” tire.
A search of the junk yards turned up four nice ‘96 Ford F-250 16” rims, which after blasting
and painting with Valspar (never do that again, took forever to cure), I went all in and put a
good set of Michelin radials on the old gal. Now she finally was riding nearly as nice as my
new Silverado. A new problem though…those original hub caps again. This time it twern’t
gonna be as easy. The land between the lug holes was tapered 14° on these Ford rims, so
I couldn’t just use a simple stand off like on the Chevy rims.
A couple of evenings at the drawing board and I came up with a 14° wedged standoff.
Got one mounted up today and I’ll finish them off tomorrow when my special screws get
here.
So here’s the original ¾ ton hub caps mounted on late model tubeless rims.
Scroll thru a few pix of the wedges if you’re interested in using the idea for your
ride:
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/167852800/large
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/167852801/large
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/167852802/large
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273576 Tue Jul 24 2018 01:21 AM
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Posts: 2,527
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I like yours much better than mine. Although they have been trouble free for years having a mechanical connection is to my liking. Mine are rare earth magnets epoxied to the wheel covers (hub caps) and iron, not steel discs on the front hub caps and rear axle centers. Thought I might need alignment pins but this turned not needed. Getting the spacing right was a pain and each cap is position specific. One has to pry HARD to get them off. Yours are beautiful.


Evan
Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273598 Tue Jul 24 2018 03:44 AM
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You're only a 95% purist now, Denny? When did that change? You used to be 100%! grin
You must be slowing down in your old age!


Rich

'47 Loadmaster

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Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273618 Tue Jul 24 2018 12:32 PM
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thumbs_up

Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273636 Tue Jul 24 2018 02:40 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
Thank you Mr Graham.
I am slowing working toward exactly what you did. I was trying to figure out how to get around that taper. Your pictures help greatly.

Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273656 Tue Jul 24 2018 05:16 PM
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Nice solution.

Another option is make new spring steel clips with the correct shape for the unique application.
Start with annealed spring sheet stock and have them heat treated if you can't handle that part in house.


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Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273657 Tue Jul 24 2018 05:27 PM
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Posts: 1,885
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If anyone uses aftermarket wheels (Wheelsmith, Wheel Vintiques, etc.), Wheelsmith will modify your caps to fit any style of wheels they sell. I used Wheel Vintiques Artillery wheels, which I knew my repop GMC caps wouldn't fit. Wheelsmith modified my repop GMC caps and they fit very snug, I'm very happy with them.

Just another option. Cool solution, Denny.


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Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273663 Tue Jul 24 2018 06:57 PM
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Nice job Denny. thumbs_up

John


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Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273673 Tue Jul 24 2018 09:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,008
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Real nice, as usual, Denny


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Re: Original AD hub caps on Modern Rims
Denny Graham #1273691 Tue Jul 24 2018 11:38 PM
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General Purpose
Denny, what is that piece I see between the wedge and the wheel? Wood? Rubber? Gasket? Optical conclusion?


I'm away on an ego trip. Will be back on Feb 30.
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