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#1270083 Sun Jun 24 2018 05:30 AM
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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
Hi all.
I’ve begun in earnest my Grandpa’s ‘70 C10.
A little backstory:
My grandpa bought it second hand, as the second owner, in 1977 and drove it for 4 years. In 1981, he had a heart attack and passed away. His truck was parked at my uncle’s for many years. I was born in 1983 and my father named me after Grandpa. His nickname was “the Fox” and so I was named after him but not as a nickname. My dad would borrow the truck from time to time to do truck stuff with it, but I was so little I never recalled those days.

As I grew up we would often visit Uncle and he/we(the nephews/nieces) loved his trucks out on his farm. GMC, Chevrolet, Ford, Fargo, Dodge; it seemed he had one of everything and of every size, too. My brother, cousins, and I would play in them all the time. We’d pretend we were hitching up trailers and going to rodeos, mud bogging, whatever we could imagine as we turned steering wheels.

There was always one I particularly liked that usually sat by the shop under the trees. It was dark green and always had a smell I liked when I climbed inside it. Years passed until one family gathering:

I was 12 years old in 1995 when we had a large family gathering at one of my other uncle’s. The whole family was there. Cousins, aunts, uncles, grandma, nieces, nephews...everybody. We were all fishing at the dugout with a campfire and there was a draw happening. Being 12 I was oblivious to what was actually happening in this draw. Well, suddenly some of my cousins came up to me and said, “You won Grandpa’s truck!” My uncle had consulted with his siblings and they had decided to put all the grandkids’ names into a hat to see who would get Grandpa’s truck.

“I did? What truck are you talking about?” I thought it was perhaps just a little model truck I could play with in my bedroom.
“Grandpa’s! That green Chevy that is parked at Uncle’s shop!”

Then it dawned on me! The truck I loved to play in! Sweet! I was 12 but soon would be 14 and could get my learner’s license and drive. Well...legally anyway. We kids had been driving since a young age because the sooner you learned to drive the farm trucks, the less likely it was that you had to lift and load square bales in the field! The truck was soon delivered and I was sure proud to have my own truck at 12! And a pretty cool one at that. Dark green, 307 with clicky valves, 3speed, long box, in pretty decent shape (to a 12 year old’s eyes anyway. In truth it was pretty rusted under the cab and box). Dad and I would drive it together. He would take me into “work” where I would mow grass and landscape in town to earn cash as a newly turned teen. I have fond memories with Dad in that truck. Seat covers, fixing the seat slider, bleeding brakes. The truck and Dad taught me a lot.

I turned 16 and YAY! I was set with my own set of wheels! My friends couldn’t figure out the 3speed! They all thought it was an automatic. Theft deterrent! I drove it for most of the year and had some of my first dates with my future wife in that truck. Great memories. Now, the second I won that truck my older cousin offered to buy it. The stipulation was that if I sold it, it MUST go to family. I declined and declined but he offered and offered to buy it. It’s strange how after 4 years of the bug in the ear and being 16 and broke from driving a V8 with ridiculous insurance rates I relented and sold the truck to my cousin. He was overjoyed and I wasn’t truly aware of what I had done. Days later, deep regret creeped in and I wanted my truck back. “Sorry, Fox. I’m keeping it. One day she’ll be shined right up and brand new.”

“ I get first right of refusal if you change your mind, right?”

“Of course.”

I moved on and checked in with my cousin from time to time. I even helped him start to take little pieces off when he began to dismantle it.

I bought a Mazda to go easy on my wallet!

Well, time passed and the truck project stalled out at my cousin’s. He had, before he bought the C10, rebuilt his first truck. An ‘86 pickup and boy, oh boy, is it nice. 427, overdrive, posi, it goes like stink and looks like a gem. I did expect him to finish Grandpa’s, but the truck gods were looking out for me I guess. I sold the truck in the spring of 2000. Years ticked by, and I went to work teaching at the school one day, September 22, 2016, to be exact. It’s easy to remember because it is my anniversary with my wife. I got a text message:
“Do you want to buy Grandpa's truck?”

Was he serious? My heart skipped a beat...


“Sold.”


Happy anniversary, Love!! I went home and told my wife I bought another truck that day.
“What?” came her response, with a raised eyebrow.
“It’s Grandpa’s.”
“That old green one you had?”
“Yes.”
“Oh, well, that’s ok then.” 😎
I have waited over 16 years, and now it’s not going anywhere.
My cousin did do some work on it though. The truck is disassembled. A lot. But he did have the frame blasted, epoxied and sealed with gloss black. He also bought a lot of sheet metal to repair the floors, rockers, corners, etc. New axles, seals, bearings, brakes and a 5 lug disc conversion came with it.

I have begun the next truck and the road seems long again Bolters:
Here we go:

I have done the following since I got it in 2016:
New rear seals and bearings.
New cab mounts
New axles installed.
Front discs installed.
New brakes installed front and rear.
New ball joints upper and lower.
New tie rods and ends.

I’ve marked out the cab corners and braced the cab:
It’s about to get very invasive!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Tcv249EaabYmh45R7

These show the disc conversion, rear drums and brakes, removing it from my cousin’s house and the donor “puzzle box” c20 I bought to see how it goes back together(that I actually used the 4.10’ for my AD 1 ton). One picture also shows the cab braced and ready for her new floor, rockers and corners. Yeesh.

I am also logging my time:

Total hours: 12.5

Last edited by Fox; Fri Mar 31 2023 04:19 AM.

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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

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1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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'Bolter
Impressive. That would have taken me weeks.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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1962 Chevrolet C10
1962 Suburban
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'Bolter
Wow, I love reading this epic. You are going to do the old Fox well. Your Gramps is looking down on you with a huge smile. Dont let it go again, a little bit of your gramps is alive in that truck, enjoy your time together.
Keep the updates coming.
Steve


1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
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1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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Shop Shark
Howdy Fox
You have the Stovebolt community eagerly watching your new project. You do such nice work your Gramps
would be proud. Think of it as a learning project for Everett (and the rest of us).

The 71/72 ?donor truck is quite rebuildable just find a 1/2 ton axle and front hubs. (they went to 5 stud in 71).
It is amazing that it sat for so long it still has yellow plates. We went to white ones in 84.

Enjoy your vacation time.
Howie ( my wife wants to know what vehicle your wife will get?)


1 1955 Chev one ton. 261 engine

3 1962 Chev c-10 261 engine
4 1966 Plymouth VIP 5.7 GenIII Hemi
5 1966 Imperial Crown Coupe 440 engine
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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
Thanks Howie! I am looking forward to summer holidays. 3 days to go. 😎

My dad is talking about getting that c20 going just to possibly to run around in as he owned quite a few 67-72 trucks over the years. It might be fun for pa to tinker on. From the paper work, it was last registered in 1984! Crazy. I was 1 year old. Our neighbour drives a 68 GMC that is in terrible shape, rust wise. He came over and had a good chat about the C20.

My wife has always like the 65-66 mustang coupes. She looks from time to time at them on classifieds but isn’t truly serious at this time. She says she’s going to drive the snot out of the c10 when it is done. Perhaps one day we will get her one. She has already pointed out that if we have another child, we will need a car...😃

Here are the last couple nights’ progress:

Rockers cut out, corners cut, lower door pillars at the rear cut out and ready to be rebuilt.

Total hours: 16.5
Cab hours total: 6.5

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JBpNszz2Yy4Utg1A

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Tue Jan 31 2023 02:56 AM.

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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
Over the long weekend I took my one ton in the parade and show and shine and also had visitors to the house. My aunts, uncles and cousins came over and we had some drinks and eventually ended up in the shop. It was a lot of fun as we sat around Grandpa’s C10 and as time went on stories started to flow. Stories of Aunty driving it to the hospital! My uncle getting speeding tickets in it, my cousin standing on the seat as my uncle got those tickets, the column shift repairs, burnouts, near misses, hauling hay, how Grandpa preferred to ride along in the truck and not actually drive often; they came fast and steady. I didn’t know these things about the truck and it was special hearing them. My parents, aunts, and uncles are starting to get up there in age and I want to finish it for them. I won’t soon forget July 1, 2018.

I worked a couple days before the long weekend, and on Monday, rebuilding the lower rear door pillars before I cut out more steel on the floor.

In preparation for the cab floor to be cut out I had some work to do. I thoroughly cleaned the shop, I moved parts, I reassembled my gantry crane so I can lift the cab, and I also built new saw horses to set the cab on. The last couple days haven’t been super productive in terms of sheet metal, but the other night I bolted the new floor onto the frame and have the cab blocked on the saw horses ready to go.

Tonight I proceeded to cut that floor out... Here it is! The one picture shows how significant the inner rocker rust was. What rockers?


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dxr3iaBhsLFJwtYW9

Cab hours: 13

Total Hours: 24

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Sat Oct 31 2020 04:14 AM.

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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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'Bolter
Still amazed that with all of that gone you can still get the rockers and a pillars fit right.


HB

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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
Here’s hoping anyway. I measured and measured and braced and braced. Hopefully they fit right. I will do test fits of the doors and fenders before anything is welded out. This surgery has me very nervous.


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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,261
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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
Yesterday I removed the remaining pieces that were spot welded to the cab rear wall and front lip. My new air chisel and new bits for my spot weld cutter made this easy and actually kind of fun.

Today I prepped spot weld holes and ground down some obtrusive corners. I also painted in behind pieces that will be closed up. Then I lowered the cab onto the floor. Reproductions are close but I am finding I have to “make it fit.” The back of the floor is out 1/8” from my original markings. I’ll do a little persuasion and get it on right. The front lip looks like it’s going to be a bear. It’s really not close... yeesh.

Cab hours: 16

Total hours: 27

🦊

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZwdjTnzpYpAvfpJS7



Last edited by Fox; Sat Jul 07 2018 03:36 AM.

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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,261
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Fox Offline OP
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
I tacked the front lip and rear wall to the floor. The front lip was a BEAR to get lined up. I then removed the bracing I installed and measured everything again. Nothing moved during the floor install which made me very happy. Next, I began to replace the inner kick panels of the cab. I did not spot weld the tunnel in place as I suspect that later I will need to modify it to clear the automatic transmission I intend on installing. The information given on the reproduction floors state that modification will be needed for an automatic transmission and I bet that the tunnel is too low. The panel installation is going slowly but smoothly. I often wonder how many hours it would take an experienced shop to do these things. I am glad I have started tracking hours. It really is illuminating on how much time goes into these old girls.

I also tore the front clip apart so I could lighten the fender load when I go to check door alignment. I installed the core support on the frame loosely in preparation for this. I need to get a couple large washers for the bolts that go through the frame mounts.

Cab hours: 25

Total: 37.5



https://photos.app.goo.gl/RNRkfM8rKwrjHdGX9

Last edited by Fox; Fri Mar 22 2019 04:26 AM.

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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.
1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife’s

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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