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Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. #1270083
Sun Jun 24 2018 05:30 AM
Sun Jun 24 2018 05:30 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Hi all.
I’ve begun in earnest my Grandpa’s ‘70 C10.
A little backstory:
My grandpa bought it second hand, as the second owner in 1977 and drove it for 4 years. In 1981, he had a heart attack and passed away. His truck was parked at my uncle’s for many years. I was born in 1983 and my father named me after Grandpa. His nickname was “the Fox” and so I was named after him but not as a nickname.

As I grew up we would often visit Uncle and he/we(the nephews) loved his trucks out on his farm. GMC, Chevrolet, Ford, Fargo, Dodge; it seemed he had one of everything and of every size too. My brother, cousins and I would play in them all the time. We’d pretend we were hitching up trailers and going to rodeos, mud bogging, whatever we could imagine as we turned steering wheels.

There was always one I particularly liked that sat by the shop under the trees. It was dark green and always had a smell I liked when I climbed inside it. Years passed until one family gathering:

I was 12 years old in 1995 when we had a large family gathering at one of my other uncle’s. The whole family was there. Cousins, aunts, uncles, grandma, nieces, nephews...everybody. We were all fishing at the dugout with a campfire and there was a draw happening. Being 12 I was oblivious to what was actually happening in this draw. Well, suddenly some of my cousins came up to me and said, “You won Grandpa’s truck!” My uncle had consulted with his siblings and they had decided to put all the grandkids’ names into a hat to see who would get grandpa’s truck.

“I did? What truck are you talking about?” I thought it was perhaps just a little model truck I could play with in my bedroom.
“Grandpa’s! That green Chevy that is parked at Uncle’s shop!”

Then it dawned on me! The truck I loved to play in! Sweet! I was 12 but soon I would be 14 and could get my learner’s license and drive. Well...legally anyway. We kids had been driving since a young age because the sooner you learned to drive the farm trucks, the less likely it was that you had to lift and load square bales in the field! The truck was soon delivered and I was sure proud to have my own truck at 12! And a pretty cool one at that. Dark green, 307 with sticky valves, 3speed, long box, in pretty decent shape (to a 12 year old’s eyes anyway. In truth it was pretty rusted under the cab and box). Dad and I would drive it together. He would take me into “work” where I would mow grass and landscape in town to earn cash as a newly turned teen. I have fond memories with Dad in that truck. Seat covers, fixing the seat slider, bleeding brakes. The truck and Dad taught me a lot.

I turned 16 and YAY! I was set with my own set of wheels! My friends couldn’t figure out the 3speed! They all thought it was an automatic. Theft deterrent! I drove it for most of the year and had some of my first dates with my future wife in that truck. Great memories. Now, the second I won that truck my older cousin offered to buy it. The stipulation was that if I sold it, it MUST go to family. I declined and declined but he offered and offered to buy it. It’s strange how after 4 years of the bug in the ear and being 16 and broke from driving a V8 with ridiculous insurance rates I relented and sold the truck to my cousin. He was overjoyed and I wasn’t truly aware of what I had done. Days later, deep regret creeped in and I wanted my truck back. “Sorry, Fox. I’m keeping it. One day she’ll be shined right up and brand new.”

“ I get first right of refusal if you change your mind, right?”

“Of course.”

I moved on and checked in with my cousin from time to time. I even helped him start to take little pieces off when he began to dismantle it.

I bought a Mazda to go easy on my wallet!

Well, time passed and the truck project stalled out at my cousin’s. He had before, he bought the C10, redone his first truck. An ‘86 pickup and boy oh boy, is it nice. 427, overdrive, posi, it goes like stink and looks like a gem. I did expect him to finish Grandpa’s but the truck gods were looking out for me I guess. I sold the truck in the spring of 2000. I went to school teaching one day, September 22, 2016, to be exact. It’s easy to remember because it is my anniversary with my wife. I got a text message:
“Do you want to buy Grandpa's truck?”

Was he serious? My heart skipped a beat...


“Sold.”


Happy anniversary, Love!! I went home and told my wife I bought another truck that day.
“What?” came her response, with a raised eyebrow.
“It’s Grandpa’s, my old green one.”
“Oh, well, that’s ok then. 😎
I have waited over 16 years and now it’s not going anywhere.
My cousin did do some work on it though. The truck is disassembled. A lot. But he did have the frame blasted, epoxied and sealed with gloss black. He also bought a lot of sheet metal to repair the floors, rockers, corners, etc. New axles, seals, bearings, brakes and a 5 lug disc conversion came with it.

I have begun the next truck and the road seems long again Bolters:
Here we go:

I have done the following since I got it in 2016:
New rear seals and bearings.
New cab mounts
New axles installed.
Front discs installed.
New brakes installed front and rear.
New ball joints upper and lower.
New tie rods and ends.

I’ve marked out the cab corners and braced the cab:
It’s about to get very invasive!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Tcv249EaabYmh45R7

These show the disc conversion, rear drums and brakes, removing it from my cousins house and the donor “puzzle box” c20 I bought to see how it goes back together(that I actually used the 4.10’ for my AD 1 ton). One picture also shows the cab braced and ready for her new floor, rockers and corners. Yeesh.

I am also logging my time:

Total hours: 12.5

Last edited by Fox; Fri Mar 22 2019 04:22 AM.


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1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1270095
Sun Jun 24 2018 12:16 PM
Sun Jun 24 2018 12:16 PM
Hambone  Offline
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california, md
Impressive. That would have taken me weeks.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1270100
Sun Jun 24 2018 12:42 PM
Sun Jun 24 2018 12:42 PM
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sstock  Offline
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Gig Harbor, WA
Wow, I love reading this epic. You are going to do the old Fox well. Your Gramps is looking down on you with a huge smile. Dont let it go again, a little bit of your gramps is alive in that truck, enjoy your time together.
Keep the updates coming.
Steve

Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1270259
Mon Jun 25 2018 09:24 PM
Mon Jun 25 2018 09:24 PM
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Howies551Ton  Offline
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Posts: 136
Gleichen/CalgaryAlberta
Howdy Fox
You have the Stovebolt community eagerly watching your new project. You do such nice work your Gramps
would be proud. Think of it as a learning project for Everett (and the rest of us).

The 71/72 ?donor truck is quite rebuildable just find a 1/2 ton axle and front hubs. (they went to 5 stud in 71).
It is amazing that it sat for so long it still has yellow plates. We went to white ones in 84.

Enjoy your vacation time.
Howie ( my wife wants to know what vehicle your wife will get?)


1 1955 Chev one ton. 261 engine

3 1962 Chev c-10 261 engine
4 1966 Plymouth VIP 5.7 GenIII Hemi
5 1966 Imperial Crown Coupe 440 engine
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1270293
Tue Jun 26 2018 03:32 AM
Tue Jun 26 2018 03:32 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Thanks Howie! I am looking forward to summer holidays. 3 days to go. 😎

My dad is talking about getting that c20 going just to possibly to run around in as he owned quite a few 67-72 trucks over the years. It might be fun for pa to tinker on. From the paper work, it was last registered in 1984! Crazy. I was 1 year old. Our neighbour drives a 68 GMC that is in terrible shape, rust wise. He came over and had a good chat about the C20.

My wife has always like the 65-66 mustang coupes. She looks from time to time at them on classifieds but isn’t truly serious at this time. She says she’s going to drive the snot out of the c10 when it is done. Perhaps one day we will get her one. She has already pointed out that if we have another child, we will need a car...😃

Here is the last couple nights’ progress:

Rockers cut out, corners cut, lower door pillars at the rear cut out and ready to be rebuilt.

Total hours: 16.5
Cab hours total: 6.5

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JBpNszz2Yy4Utg1A

🦊






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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1271159
Wed Jul 04 2018 04:25 AM
Wed Jul 04 2018 04:25 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Over the long weekend I took my one ton in the parade and show and shine and also had visitors to the house. My aunts, uncles and cousins came over and we had some drinks and eventually ended up in the shop. It was a lot of fun as we sat around Grandpa’s C10 and as time went on stories started to flow. Stories of Aunty driving it to the hospital! My uncle getting speeding tickets in it, my cousin standing on the seat as my uncle got those tickets, the column shift repairs, burnouts, near misses, hauling hay, how Grandpa preferred to ride along in the truck and not actually drive often; they came fast and steady. I didn’t know these things about the truck and it was special hearing them. My parents, aunts, and uncles are starting to get up there in age and I want to finish it for them. I won’t soon forget July 1, 2018.

I worked a couple days before tthe long weekend and on Monday rebuilding the lower rear door pillars before I cut out more steel on the floor.

In preparation for the cab floor to be cut out I had some work to do. I thoroughly cleaned the shop, I moved parts, I reassembled my gantry crane so I can lift the cab, and I also built new saw horses to set the cab on. The last couple days haven’t been super productive in terms of sheet metal, but the other night I bolted the new floor onto the frame and have the cab blocked on the saw horses ready to go.

Tonight I proceeded to cut that floor out... Here it is! The one picture shows how significant the inner rocker rust was. What rockers?


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dxr3iaBhsLFJwtYW9

Cab hours: 13

Total Hours: 24

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Fri Mar 22 2019 04:25 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1271175
Wed Jul 04 2018 11:52 AM
Wed Jul 04 2018 11:52 AM
Hambone  Offline
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california, md
Still amazed that with all of that gone you can still get the rockers and a pillars fit right.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1271198
Wed Jul 04 2018 02:25 PM
Wed Jul 04 2018 02:25 PM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Here’s hoping anyway. I measured and measured and braced and braced. Hopefully they fit right. I will do test fits of the doors and fenders before anything is welded out. This surgery has me very nervous.



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1271496
Sat Jul 07 2018 03:35 AM
Sat Jul 07 2018 03:35 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
Yesterday I removed the remaining pieces that were spot welded to the cab rear wall and front lip. My new air chisel and new bits for my spot weld cutter made this easy and actually kind of fun.

Today I prepped spot weld holes and ground down some obtrusive corners. I also painted in behind pieces that will be closed up. Then I lowered the cab onto the floor. Reproductions are close but I am finding I have to “make it fit.” The back of the floor is out 1/8” from my original markings. I’ll do a little persuasion and get it on right. The front lip looks like it’s going to be a bear. It’s really not close... yeesh.

Cab hours: 16

Total hours: 27

🦊

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZwdjTnzpYpAvfpJS7



Last edited by Fox; Sat Jul 07 2018 03:36 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1272426
Sat Jul 14 2018 03:29 AM
Sat Jul 14 2018 03:29 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
I tacked the front lip and rear wall to the floor. The front lip was a BEAR to get lined up. I then removed the bracing I installed and measured everything again. Nothing moved during the floor install which made me very happy. Next, I began to replace the inner kick panels of the cab. I did not spot weld the tunnel in place as I suspect that later I will need to modify it to clear the automatic transmission I intend on installing. The information given on the reproduction floors state that modification will be needed for an automatic transmission and I bet that the tunnel is too low. The panel installation is going slowly but smoothly. I often wonder how many hours it would take an experienced shop to do these things. I am glad I have started tracking hours. It really is illuminating on how much time goes into these old girls.

I also tore the front clip apart so I could lighten the fender load when I go to check door alignment. I installed the core support on the frame loosely in preparation for this. I need to get a couple large washers for the bolts that go through the frame mounts.

Cab hours: 25

Total: 37.5



https://photos.app.goo.gl/RNRkfM8rKwrjHdGX9

Last edited by Fox; Fri Mar 22 2019 04:26 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1274974
Sat Aug 04 2018 03:27 AM
Sat Aug 04 2018 03:27 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
The pillar support, inner kick panel are installed and the rockers have been aligned with the doors. I had to relief cut the reproduction rockers in several places in order to get them to fit just so. The gaps on the doors are quite good considering how much metal I cut out. The door hinges are up next. I’d like to hang the doors next and gap them to the rockers and back cab wall so I can install the cab corners, but I figure I’d better get the hinges up to 100% before I install the final panels.

Hopefully everything will line up. This process has been a challenge for me. I only get to work about an hour or so at a time, so it has taken longer than I expected. I hope to have the floor, rockers, cab corners and door hinges complete by the end of August.

I also cleaned out the parts shed and got rid of a bunch of junk. I put up some local classified ads for some of it. Hopefully it sells and I can put the money toward some things for the c10. I then moved all the C10 parts (most of which will be sold off or junked as I won’t be using a lot of it) into the shed. I also ordered new trailing arm and panhard bar bushings which should arrive by Wednesday.

Cab hours: 43.5

Total: 56


https://photos.app.goo.gl/kPUdenMBpyf2LAT4A












Last edited by Fox; Sat Aug 04 2018 03:38 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1276864
Sun Aug 19 2018 04:27 AM
Sun Aug 19 2018 04:27 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
I made an error when cutting my cab corners and have had to backtrack a bit here. I foolishly cut too much off and when tacked in place they looked okay. I reinstalled the box to check lines and ugh... off. The cab corner curved upward and met the box at a slightly strange angle. The lines were close but not good enough. So I cut them out, picked up new ones ($70 error and time) while we were on holidays, and then I changed gears for a while.

I have, in the meantime, started removing dents in the cab. Some I can hammer and dolly no problem, but others have inaccessible backsides and have to be pulled. The dirtiest one is on the back right corner. It is a deep gouge in the beltline that runs down. I have over 2 hours massaging that one spot alone. Again, I wonder how long an experienced shop might take. If I had an English wheel, I’d be tempted to build a new piece and cut out the old. Many of the dents are very smooth now and may very well be invisible with only a bit of high build primer, whereas a few of the other “dirty” ones will require a skim of filler. I’m quite pleased with how it is progressing. It is slow, but rewarding. I might even forward this link to family members so they can see the progress as I turtle along. 🐢

Here are some pictures:


https://photos.app.goo.gl/n2EgWZXTRxUk9jhKA

Cab hours: 49.5

Total: 62

🦊



Last edited by Fox; Sun Aug 19 2018 04:33 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1276991
Mon Aug 20 2018 03:54 AM
Mon Aug 20 2018 03:54 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
Well, that bloody belt line dent proved too much for pulling. I burned up another couple hours fighting it so I zip cut that portion out and hammered a piece of steel into shape and welded it in. I should have done that to start and saved my time. Oh well, at least I’ll be happier with the end product knowing it’s fresh and clean. I have ground down some of the weld and it looks pretty good. A little filler will have it looking ship shape in the end. I wish I was skilled enough to not use filler at all but that’s beyond me.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MKRAM2g6hZppdbAJ7

Cab hours: 51.5

Total: 64

🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278121
Tue Aug 28 2018 03:20 AM
Tue Aug 28 2018 03:20 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,415
Breton, Alberta
I continue to pull dents and slowly do cab corners, but I have been doing other little odd jobs to keep me from going cross eyed. After staring at the same task for a while ( sheet metal repair), it’s nice to do something different for a bit. I have stripped the doors in order to prep them for, you guessed it, metal repair. I also bagged and tagged it all and made a little note for disassembly/assembly. The vent windows on an AD truck I found WAY easier to remove/than the 67-72s. I also had to dig into my tickle trunk of cuss words to get it out. Luckily I didn’t damage anything. I can relate to those who have troubles with the inside door handles and window crank removal. If you don’t have the special tool, or you don’t know what you are dealing with, you are very likely going to damage something during disassembly. I have a couple photos that show how this tool slides in behind the handle and pushes on the spring the locks the handle in place. Get this tool. For $7 it’s pretty handy.Those bloody doors took 3 hours to strip! Without the tool I wouldn’t like to know how much more it might have taken.

I also began prepping the frame for some serious surgery. Purists don’t cringe, but I am going to make this truck a short box. I always thought the long boxes looked too long and the shorts just right. However,I think the exact opposite of 73-87s. I don’t like the look of a 73-87 short box. They seem too short. Weird... I have been battling with the idea since I reacquired the truck. Some cousins say,”Cut it down.” Some uncles agree. Others say, “Leave it long.” My wife says, “Long.” But Dad made the deepest impact. “It’s your truck. Make it what you want it to be and enjoy it.”

I removed the front bed mounts from the frame, measured and I made my marks on the frame. The long box will likely be sold and replaced with an aftermarket short bed. I will hang on it it until the project is done though. No cuts yet....

That long box might come in handy if I wanted to build a 72 K50 “Duke”....

Cab hours: 61.5

Frame, other, etc- 13.5

Total: 75

🦊

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ETbMqEyQKJ5uJLMz5

Last edited by Fox; Tue Aug 28 2018 03:29 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278402
Thu Aug 30 2018 02:06 AM
Thu Aug 30 2018 02:06 AM
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53 green 1- ton  Offline
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Bucks County, Pa.
Fox,
Is there anything you can’t do?
You never cease to amaze me! Truly envious of your work!
As always, nice job with the trucks as well as the day to day updates on your projects!
Jim


Jim Schmidt.
Bucks County, Pa.
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278412
Thu Aug 30 2018 03:37 AM
Thu Aug 30 2018 03:37 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Well thank you, Jim. I would still love to apprentice under a lot of the fellas here on Stovebolt. Without this site, I’d be lost.



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1279598
Sun Sep 09 2018 04:06 AM
Sun Sep 09 2018 04:06 AM
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Spruce Grove Alberta Canada
Hey Fox,
We've been going back and forth on Hwy 16 to our campground in BC otherwise we would have stopped to see you this summer. I think we're staying home for a while now and we'll have to come to see you one of these weekend soon.
Great information and journal writing skills you have , must be a school teacher LOL!
Doyle


1950 Chevrolet 5-Window Canadian manufactured 1-Ton with Dump Bed / Hoist
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1280390
Sun Sep 16 2018 03:29 AM
Sun Sep 16 2018 03:29 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Sounds good, Doyle! Let me know.

Back to school, back to school... ugh! Hahaha! It’s been a hectic few weeks to say the least. Last minute camping trips with my family, playing with my little guy, school prep (and shopping), last minute golfing, and of course trying to work on the C10. Sad to say I haven’t touched the truck much. I’ve almost been out of school 20 years and I’m still doing back to school shopping...for myself! Hahaha!

Well, I’m happy to say that I have been playing “par” golf...oh right, the truck! 😉

The reproduction cab corners really are a hit or miss item. I screwed up the first cut on the left hand side so I got a new one as mentioned above. I muscled it into place but of course it’s not perfect. I can massage it some but I feel I will weld it solid to the rocker to make it seamless. The right hand side was an absolute crap shoot. The 2nd patch I got was TERRIBLE. I mean there’s close, not so close, and then there’s “WTF?” That’s how bad its fit was. I pulled the first patch out of the steel bin and proceeded to reuse it. I will return the 2nd and voice my complaint.

However, the first RH patch did not follow the door curvature at all. It was much too straight. When I closed the door, the door stuck out beyond the cab corner by 1/4”. I was mad at this point so I packed it in for about a week. I thought about how to remedy this problem. I proceeded to remove a few tacks, pulled it out slightly and I pie cut that panel along the lip that bends around the door jamb. This allowed me to “accordion” the patch and get the bend needed to fit the door’s curvature. I have more welding to do now, but it fits much better. I will still need to massage the bottom like the left by blending it into the rocker, but I’m happy with how it is turning out.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FdXEmDZXgG1mFQQZA

Cab hours- 63.5

Frame/other- 13.5

Total: 77
🦊

Last edited by Fox; Sun Sep 16 2018 04:17 PM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1282884
Mon Oct 08 2018 02:36 AM
Mon Oct 08 2018 02:36 AM
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I have the cab corners completed. Those reproductions fought me but I managed to get them to look pretty darn good. Blast, a bit of epoxy, very thin skim of filler and they will look great. I was going to finish the trans tunnel welding but I think I will leave it until I have the engine and transmission in place in case I need to massage the tunnel. So, I am going to tackle the door repair next I think. The LH side has some cancer that has rusted through, I will inspect and clean the drain holes and see if there are other issues to address. After that I will mount and repair the front fenders. Slowly, but I’m still moving forward.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a2t4UToDZcLiuDrN8

Cab hours 74.5

Frame/other:13.5

Total: 88

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Tue Oct 09 2018 03:43 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1283026
Tue Oct 09 2018 03:56 AM
Tue Oct 09 2018 03:56 AM
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I started on the LH door today and, oh boy, is the rust worse than I expected. The skin had a couple pin holes but after poking around a lot more issues reared their heads. I have since cut out the bottom rear corner. I tried to open it up as non-invasively as possible but the rust was too much. Out it came. Next, I will need to cut out the underside of the front corner, fix pin holes along the underside, and also figure out how I’m going to do all this. I was frustrated as I pondered this, so I changed gears.

I hammered and dollied a few dents along the crease line on the front LH fender lip. What a dirty bugger. I got it very close to where I can just feel the imperfections. It should be good enough with a little file work. I then cut the bottom rear off the front LH fender and proceeded to make a patch for it. I had to separate the skin overlap and then repair the underlying rust and then fab a new piece to lay back over. It wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be and I hope I can use the lesson here for the up coming door issues.

Today started out rough but ended very well. The front LH fender is done!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/uFQeqEeYRYBZs7MN7

Cab hours: 77.5

Frame/fenders/other: 16.5

Total: 94

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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1283136
Wed Oct 10 2018 03:38 AM
Wed Oct 10 2018 03:38 AM
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This evening I cut out a pin hole rusted section of my front RH fender. The lower rear had rust holes and severe gouges/dents in it so I cut it out. The piece looks ok in the pictures but I hammered it straight after I cut it out to help make patch pieces. The support underneath of course is likewise rusted out and I have begun to rebuild it.

I have a reproduction patch panel but of course it will require a lot of work to get it to be “up to snuff.” The original fender opening has a creased indent that runs all the way around the fender opening. Of course, the reproduction does not have this. I don’t have a bead roller (but I suspect I wouldn’t be able to make that work either) so I am going to splice the old piece creased indent, which is good, into the patch panel. Fingers crossed it works out. The patch panels are a decent start point but always seems to require a lot of extra work to make them “just right.”

A slow evening but enjoyable...

I’m having trouble posting photos tonight. I will update when it is fixed.

Not working 100% but here they are:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oWB9YYZ8nw3EjtEb7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jPKzbNjrPBgUeXdW8



https://photos.app.goo.gl/G5DgYtjTJDpawFUC6

Cab hours: 77.5

Frame/fenders/other hours:17.5

Total: 95

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Thu Jan 24 2019 04:43 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1288254
Wed Nov 21 2018 04:39 AM
Wed Nov 21 2018 04:39 AM
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It has been a while. Everett is growing so fast and he’s keeping mom and dad busy! He already knows 5 letter sounds! We have these ABC fridge magnets and he LOVES them. He plays with them all the time. He knows the sounds of H, P, M, X, and B. It is amazing how much they learn so quickly! In addition, I have been finishing parent interviews about kids. Testing. Report cards. Ugh! I haven’t been completely idle, but haven’t done too much either.

I have the lower rear of the right front fender almost welded out. I was frustrated by the progress and fit here, so I hop skipped around a bit. I proceeded to cut out the rust on the inner fenders and I have begun making patch panels to repair them. The front left is pretty rotten and I will see if the patches I’ve made for it will be good enough. A patch I made for the front right will have to be cut out as it isn’t good enough yet.

Here’s what I am working with. Just another day in rust land!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FfbD6QCX5aDjQZ2Y8

Here is the inside of the lower right support before I welded in the patch panel for it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UA3oKduMHqVMzprS6


The kids are setting personal goals in school and I feel that the metal work being done on this truck by June is doable. I have to make time for family, work, and then truck stuff. I’d better get a move on as baby #2 is due April 23!

Cab hours: 77.5

Fenders/frame, etc: 27.5

Total: 105

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Wed Nov 21 2018 04:42 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1288347
Thu Nov 22 2018 12:01 AM
Thu Nov 22 2018 12:01 AM
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Congratulations on the upcoming new arrival. April 23rd is an excellent date. There are two bolters that share that date. Sweet and myself dance
All the Best to the three of ya!
Jim


Jim Schmidt.
Bucks County, Pa.
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1288383
Thu Nov 22 2018 04:48 AM
Thu Nov 22 2018 04:48 AM
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Thanks, Jim!

Tonight I built the brace that tucks up under the inner fender and is basically a repad for where the hood hinges bolt through. Isn’t factory looking, but will work well enough after blasting, epoxy, rubber coating, etc.. I have to build a couple more and then plug weld them in place. I had to repair the metal skin on top of them but I forgot to take pictures. I repaired those a few days ago. One side looks really good. The other is ok and will need a little more finishing work to pass quality control ( my wife’s keen eye).

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f6dNnPT6jjGBuiDQ6

Cab 77.5
Frame/ fenders: 28
Total: 105.5

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Thu Nov 22 2018 04:49 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1288942
Tue Nov 27 2018 04:40 AM
Tue Nov 27 2018 04:40 AM
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Tonight I finished up the front left inner fender. I tacked the new patch piece in the other night since I tore out the old one to rebuild it as it was kind of ugly. Tonight I mocked it in place on the cab and rad support and it seemed to fit well. I then welded it out, ground it out, rechecked fit, clamped in brace support, rechecked fit, and then plug welded the brace in place. It’s nice when you can check a large item off the list!
Front left inner...Done!

I then trimmed and test fitted the patch panel I beat into submission for the front right. It is substantially larger and was harder to build because of the curves in it. I really need to get a small English wheel for stuff like this. However it seems to fit well. Next day I get in the shop I will tack it and check its fit before welding it out and planishing it. Slowly getting Some sheet metal work done here, Bolters.

Cab: 77.5
Frame/fenders: 31.5
Total: 109

🦊



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1289066
Wed Nov 28 2018 04:59 AM
Wed Nov 28 2018 04:59 AM
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I lightly bolted the front left inner fender in place and everything seems ok. I still need to hang the outer fender and make sure door gaps, etc are still good.

I tacked in the front right inner patch panel I built in place and it lined up really well. I did a little hammer and dolly work to keep it flush as I tacked. I stopped for the night. Next step is to hang the inner to check fit, hang outer, check, weld it out and grind it down. Then I need to build the stiffening brace on the inside of the inner fender.

Tonight went very well!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9gyGBUHnu2XbTKww8

Cab: 77.5
Frame/fenders: 32.5
Total: 110

🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1289190
Thu Nov 29 2018 04:53 AM
Thu Nov 29 2018 04:53 AM
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I hung the right inner fender tonight and made sure the outer would bolt on without incident. It seemed to fit ok, so now I have to build that brace and weld it out. I really didn’t feel like doing all that welding tonight and you all know how sometimes you can go cross eyed staring at the same area all the time.

I changed it up and focused on the left door. I shaped a patch piece for the lower back outer corner. I had to pie cut and accordion the piece to get the bend and the “rolled lips” along the bottom and side. So far, it looks pretty good.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BGQ8D9dzXGVfRWLM6

Cab: 78.5
Fenders/frame/other: 32.5
Total: 111

🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1290395
Sun Dec 09 2018 05:20 AM
Sun Dec 09 2018 05:20 AM
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Well, that nice little corner patch I built is now redundant. I began cleaning the lower door bottom with my wire wheel a little bit and I have pinholes everywhere along the bottom of the door. They showed up as I worked the wire wheel. I examined things more closely and see I have lots of issues with moisture and rust inside the door.

I formulated a game plan. Cut out the rust. Simple isn’t it? Well, the bottom of my door is now gone. The lower lip, the “belly of the door that nearly touches the rocker, the curved area near the lower hinge bolt holes have been sliced out. I feel this will be my most challenging sheet metal task to date. My wife gasped when she saw how the door looked tonight.
“Why did you do that?!” she questioned.

“Because it’s no good.”

“Is there another way?” she asked.

“Oh, there are others but none of those are the proper way...”

So needless to say I’ve bit a lot to chew. The door fit great before tonight, hopefully all is well when I’m done fixing this mess.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/KzxDwzFvAGHzSF3b8

I only have a few preliminary pictures that show how I masked it off to cut and the extent of the rust pinholes. They are on the outer skin, the belly, the front lower curve. More cancer pictures to come. The door looked good before I started but it is truly in need of surgery. Grandpa’s truck has to be done right.
So much for just one patch and sealing up the inside. Yeesh. Hours to go...

I also cut out the right door window bump stop bracket. It was crooked as sin. The factory welded it in place very poorly. Two spots welds held it and they barely had any meat holding it in place. I literally twisted it out of there. I blasted it clean, prepped it and then shot it in gloss black.


Cab: 78.5
Fenders/frame: 32.5
Doors: 4 hours

Total: 115

🦊😬😬

Last edited by Fox; Sun Dec 09 2018 05:22 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1290753
Wed Dec 12 2018 05:13 AM
Wed Dec 12 2018 05:13 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Breton, Alberta
Ugh....rust.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Gj9CNb8gGMhkdxC8

Cab:78.5
Fenders/frame: 32.5
Doors: 6
Total: 117
😣🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1291428
Mon Dec 17 2018 05:06 AM
Mon Dec 17 2018 05:06 AM
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Today I tore the right inner fender off that I had hung in place to mock up the right outer fender. I had a large patch piece tacked in place. I welded it out and did a little hammer/dolly work. It’s not perfect but is up underneath the fender and it will be covered with box liner. I still need to spot weld in the little “stiffening” brace under the core support on the fender. After planishing,I built that little brace and prepped the underside with primer and left it for the day. Slow but good progress on the inner fender today. Next round I believe I can call both inners done.
Photos to follow.


Cab:78.5
Fenders/frame: 34.5
Doors: 6
Total: 119

🦊😎



In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1291583
Tue Dec 18 2018 04:56 AM
Tue Dec 18 2018 04:56 AM
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Little stiffening brace in. Welded out. Ground smooth. Good enough.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6jpx33zQ1SjafHQx5


Cab: 78.5
Fenders: 25.5
Doors: 6
Frame: 10

Total: 120
🦊😎

I decided to separate the fender and frame time. Who does that anyway? I remember estimating about 10 hours off the start for the frame before I began to really track these hours.

Last edited by Fox; Tue Dec 18 2018 04:57 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1293210
Wed Jan 02 2019 04:48 AM
Wed Jan 02 2019 04:48 AM
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I have finished the lower rear of the outer right front fender. It took me a while but it turned out quite well. Of course, it will need a skim of filler to iron out any “wrinkles” but it’s pretty darn close. Unfortunately, I don’t have a picture of the finished area. I will update it when it when I get one.

I have started on the lower front part. I have cut out the rusted and smashed section. The photos were taken after I had beat the dent out in order to have my original “template” for reference. I have been fighting with reproduction panels that are close but not good enough. The curves are good but the bloody belt lines and creases look terrible compared to factory, I have cut every single reproduction panel apart in order to get them fit as I want. Along the way I was beating on the patch panel in my vice with my hammer trying to get it to fit better. The panel wasn’t moving well so I hit it harder. It still was not moving quickly or adequately enough, so I hit it harder and faster until WHACK! I clipped the left tip of my thumb and separated the nail from the nail bed. Needless to say that ended the day’s shop time.

I’m feeling irritated and encouraged at the same time on this fender. I am looking forward to having all the front fenders all done and then either finishing the doors ( which I am waiting on parts for) or starting to fit the hood and repair it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/E81VXHhQAhN1cvTE8

Cab: 78.5.
Fenders: 31.5
Doors: 6
Frame: 10

Total: 126

🦊 🙃

Last edited by Fox; Mon Jan 28 2019 05:11 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1293338
Thu Jan 03 2019 04:31 AM
Thu Jan 03 2019 04:31 AM
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Breton, Alberta
Update: I cut out the patch panel I just put in. The picture looked good but the bloody crease line on the fender radius looked terrible up close. So, I cut out what was decent on the original of that radius and spliced it into place along side the reproduction patch. I’m much happier with its fit and lines. I also took a photo of the rear lower portion that I completed the other night.


Cab: 78.5.
Fenders: 32.5
Doors: 6
Frame: 10

Total: 127

🦊😎

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7WBJTqxwb25nbtCY9



Last edited by Fox; Thu Jan 24 2019 04:47 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1293895
Mon Jan 07 2019 04:45 AM
Mon Jan 07 2019 04:45 AM
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Almost there...
I had issues with how the “inner tub” on this reproduction front right, lower fender panel lined up. The mounting hole for the inner fender was out by almost an inch. My fender was pretty straight to start with so I doubt it was “my fault.” I cut it out and massaged it heavily to get a good curvature that matches the inner fender. I then drilled a new hole for the mounting nut. I probably could have started from scratch on this piece, but oh well. It looks a lot better, straighter, and truer than if I had left the patch “as reproduced.”

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PHxTMnN5qUfJrGmZ8


I just have to weld this out, metal finish it, and I believe this fender is also done. Whoop whoop!

Yeesh. Did it really take me that long to do these 4 fenders? Yikes. Perhaps I could have purchased reproductions? 😉

Cab: 78.5
Fenders: 34.5
Doors: 6
Frame: 10

🦊😃😎



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1295542
Sun Jan 20 2019 03:14 PM
Sun Jan 20 2019 03:14 PM
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1295693
Mon Jan 21 2019 05:33 AM
Mon Jan 21 2019 05:33 AM
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This left hand door has exploded into a full restore. As I exposed more and more, the rabbit hole got deeper and deeper. I am still awaiting patch panels for the doors. I assume the right will be the same. 3 of the 4 parts I ordered were on back order so I have to wait. I have cut a lot of this bottom, and some vertically, out of the left door. I would clean a spot with a wire wheel lightly and would break through pinholes. Ugh it just got worse and worse. I have cut out all the rusty/crusty crap. Hopefully, as I mentioned before, the door fits as well as it did before I started this whole mess.

😠

While I wait for parts I began finishing up some items on the cab that I had left for a while. The cab floor reproduction was a close fit but, of course, it needed some massaging in places to fit right. One area was the trans tunnel. The lips from the hump to the doors lined up and seated quite well. Unfortunately, the trans hump lip on the floor did not meet up with the firewall lip very well. I cut a relief in the floor to open it up. I then clamped the lips together, tacked them, and then fabricated a filler piece to fill the gap. This is where I sit tonight. Slow as sin but still going forward. I hope I’m doing things right...

😐

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fXXf8mBKKe3gVYAf9

I don’t have recent photos of the doors. But, let me tell you, I’ve cut a lot more steel out of this rusty bugger.


Update: tonight I welded out and finished the trans tunnel. Also, patch panel parts have arrived and I planned out my attack on these doors. Wish me luck.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/pw7RqXYkenSgUupf9

Cab: 83
Fenders: 34.5
Doors: 7.5
Frame: 10

Total: 135 hours.
🦊

Last edited by Fox; Tue Jan 22 2019 04:51 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1296713
Tue Jan 29 2019 04:58 AM
Tue Jan 29 2019 04:58 AM
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Breton, Alberta
Door progress. I have been trimming and prepping the reproduction outer door skin for welding. It was a lot of hammering, bending, and tweaking to create the “pinch weld” that folds over itself on the underside of the door. I’m not sure if that’s the way a shop would do it but I want it to be “original-ish” looking. I’m not sure either how it should properly be done. I used my “sharp” ( I discovered tonight it’s called a wedge dolly) dolly and locked it in my vice. Then I hammered and dollied the snot out of that panel to start the fold over. It took a while and once I got it folded far enough over I slowly began to pinch it in the vise. One thing I hadn’t accounted for before I started making the lip was “curving.” As I worked that pinch lip the piece warped on me and deflected over 6” in the middle. I had to coax it back into shape. When I cut out the rusted piece it sprang out into the arc I have now in the patch piece. I figure this might encourage the door to maintain its outward bulge as opposed to sinking in more during welding. Hopefully, my thinking is clear on that. It was a pain to fold that 75° angle lip that the reproduction had in it but it should work out well once I set the inner tub in place.
Slow but good progress. Gaps aren’t too bad either...for now. 😬

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YTfa6gT2wtuitkan8

Last edited by Fox; Mon Feb 11 2019 05:11 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1296997
Thu Jan 31 2019 04:59 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Lower door outer patch panel trimmed to spec. I then test fitted the inner tub in preparation to cut it into the shape I need for the final patch.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZZwDbswWuTn8N8Ek6



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1297392
Sun Feb 03 2019 05:06 AM
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Inner tub preliminary trimming and test fit. I have a bunch of massaging to do as the bends aren’t even close to the stock door. Take a peek...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6FUvwtoiskpbZvL8



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1299468
Mon Feb 18 2019 04:58 AM
Mon Feb 18 2019 04:58 AM
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I haven’t welded out anything on this left hand door but I have been checking and rechecking gaps and things as I go. The repro inner panel curve doesn’t have the “step recess” along the bottom that the stock door had and, of course, it hit the rocker as you closed the door. So I pulled the door, cut out a small moon shaped piece about 4 inches long and inserted a hand formed step. The door closes smoothly now with about 1/8-3/16” clearance underneath the notch.

The bloody weather sure isn’t cooperating. I will be using my pal’s blasting booths to strip the insides of these doors so I can epoxy and seal them up before welding. However, his booth draws air from outside and when it is -30’ at times it cools off too quickly. I have literally been waiting almost 2 weeks for it to warm up so I can blast and weld out these doors. It has been -20°C or colder every single night since January 31. Miserable. It has been so cold that school buses have refused to run. Consequently, we had 12 days off from school. We had over a week of -38°C at night. Our first day of regular classes was on Feb13! Unreal. The other day I went outside and realized it had warmed up...it was -17°C. But I’ll take cold weather any day over say....Syria. Thank God, I live where I live. Cold weather will pass...

I took a break and finished stripping the cab components. I blasted the wiper linkages, removed the wiring harness and ignition, bagged and tagged clips, screws and bolts. The interior is barren and ready for mock-up of all the components that have to go in later.

I also started the hood. It has a few nasty dents in the front right that I need to access from the back. I drilled out a bunch of spot welds and removed the front hood support so I can access the dents. It’s going well so far.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MSzRW28sXxDHxaY57


Cab: 84
Fenders: 34.5
Doors: 18.5
Frame: 10
Hood: 1

Total: 148 hours.

🦊😎❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️

Last edited by Fox; Mon Feb 18 2019 05:00 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1303387
Sun Mar 17 2019 04:23 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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It has been a long time but I finally jumped back in on this truck. Tonight I took the doors to my friend’s shop and I blasted the doors. Unfortunately, more Swiss cheese metal showed its face and I have more work to do to get these doors back up to par. Areas which I thought were fine were blown open by the blaster, despite having a shallow angle of attack. The area that blew through was also an area that I cut open and had full view of. It really surprised me that it blew through in that location.

I have no pictures yet but will update soon.


Cab:84
Fenders:34.5
Doors:20
Frame: 10
Hood: 1

Total: 149.5

🦊 (with sand in his underpants!)


Update:
Tonight I mixed some epoxy primer sealer and I painted the inside of the left door before I start to weld out the lower patch panels.
Doors: 21
Total:150.5

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5NyqUTCTUj89Gusz6

One of the photos shows the new pin holes that appeared while blasting. I coated the inside of the door pretty thoroughly and it should be good for at least another 50 years.

Last edited by Fox; Tue Mar 19 2019 03:47 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1304712
Tue Mar 26 2019 03:37 PM
Tue Mar 26 2019 03:37 PM
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Indiana
Hey Fox. Very neat truck and story. Awesome on the work you’ve done and are doing. I have ‘70 C10 Fleetside that I plan on getting in tip top shape. Getting work on it done piecemeal bit by bit, 5-year plan. At any rate, best of luck on truck progress! Can’t wait to hear more!


Alex
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1304838
Wed Mar 27 2019 04:54 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Thank you, Fleet. Best of luck to you as well. I’m on the 5 year plan, too. 1 year gone and I’m still fixing rust. Ugh.

Tonight I began tacking that door panel in place. It’s amazing how things seem to move all on their own. I swear, before I took my little cold weather break, that the patch fit a lot better than it did tonight. Well I had to re-finesse the panel to get it as close as possible. In hindsight, I probably should have cut the door patch a little higher up as it is going to be a bear to hammer and dolly effectively. Wish me luck.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kLirxED1cVDko469A

Cab: 84
Fenders:34.5
Frame:10
Doors:22.5
Hood: 1

Total: 152 hours

😎😬

PS- I also ordered new inner tie rods, trailing arm bushing, panhard bar bushings, upper and lower front control arm bushings. I’m excited for that stuff to come in. I can take a break from metal work!

Last edited by Fox; Wed Mar 27 2019 04:56 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1305089
Fri Mar 29 2019 01:50 AM
Fri Mar 29 2019 01:50 AM
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FleetsideHoosier  Offline
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Posts: 12
Indiana
Right on, Fox. You got your work cut out for you. Good luck!


Alex
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1305190
Fri Mar 29 2019 06:45 PM
Fri Mar 29 2019 06:45 PM
Canadian_guy  Offline
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Posts: 24
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada
Hey there Fox;

A great read, gives me some pointers for my updates.

My Dad had almost the identical truck a '72 C10, Blue with a long box. Dad had a canopy on it and a slider in the rear window. Mom and Dad would ride up front and the 3 of us kids in the back. There was carpet down for us to kneel on and Dad would turn sharply or tap the brakes to try and knock us over. Games from the 1970's before seat belts!

Great work on the truck, I really want to see it done. keep the updates coming.
I was reading through your updates and congrats on the new addition to the family, April is the due date? Fast approaching, it is a real struggle to juggle the multitude of family commitments and still find time to complete a project of this magnitude. Keep on truckin' !!

Steve

Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1305249
Sat Mar 30 2019 04:58 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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I miss those days. If a guy did that stuff now, he’d go to jail and have his kids taken away by services. I remember riding/laying down in the back window of Dad’s Impala or driving home on the back roads when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Will I do the same? Some of it. 😉

Tonight I beat out a piece for the inner lower door skin. I used a patch from the reproduction panel, but the contours weren’t good enough, of course. It took a while to reform the piece, but it fits pretty well. I have it mostly welded in place as of tonight. I’m planishing as I go and it seems to be keeping the warpage at bay. I’d say I’m halfway welding it out, then I’ll metal finish, and get it “good enough!”

https://photos.app.goo.gl/32iWz5nQEDj1oBNq9

You can see the rust perforations in the cut out piece. The epoxy hides the extent a little bit, but it had to come out. Ugh. Stupid rust.

Steve, have you thought about going to History Road in Wetaskiwin in early June? A few Alberta Bolters go each year. I’m bringing my 1 ton for the first time this year. I didn’t quite finish that one in time for last year.







Last edited by Fox; Sat Mar 30 2019 05:00 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1305375
Sun Mar 31 2019 02:22 AM
Sun Mar 31 2019 02:22 AM
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FleetsideHoosier  Offline
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Posts: 12
Indiana
Right on, Fox. You got your work cut out for you. Good luck!


Alex
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1307100
Sun Apr 14 2019 09:32 PM
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Posts: 24
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada
Hey Fox;
I have never been to the Wetaskiwin show, I will definitely see if I am around and if so, go.
The '46 doesn't have the legs to get to Westaskiwin in under a week and the '40 won't be ready yet.
I might be able to trailer it there, once there it can putt around...

June 8th is the show date, I am scheduled to work. I will see if I can fanangle something.

Steve

Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1308223
Tue Apr 23 2019 04:42 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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I’d have to check the hour list in the shop but I have been doing things on the C10.

I finished welding in the door patch but it turned out terribly and I need to cut it out and start over. Good thing I’m not paying for this (besides replacement sheet patches). Ugh. I don’t know how many hours I’ve wasted here. I’ll have to check.

While that disaster was going on, I got new panhard bushings and trailing arm bushings as well. They were pretty rotten around the outside edge. The insides weren’t bad but I suspect sand from the blaster and 50 years of age and abuse warranted a change. It was a nice change to switch gears from metal work and pull wrenches. I love those easy, fun, instantly gratifying tasks. I had to completely destroy the u bolts to get them out. A 5 foot snipe with heat wouldn’t even touch them. A lot of heat in one place did though! 🔥 I have ordered new bolts. I also had to patch/repair/ weld in new nuts for the lower springs cups on the trailing arms. I have also touched/blasted/painted any hidden rust (Really?! ?! Rust? You don’t say...). It took a lot longer than I anticipated. Weird. And it’s still not completely back together.

Here are some photos of the work:


https://photos.app.goo.gl/tE5LDEe1uXTgAnL97



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1309150
Wed May 01 2019 04:17 AM
Wed May 01 2019 04:17 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Update: No baby girl. Yet. My wife is now 7 days overdue and we are eagerly waiting for the time to make the trip to the hospital. Baby 2 due! Hurry up wand wait! I love being a dad. Pretty neat stuff.

Truck update: ugh.
This door is a real PITA. I’ve got the outer lower skin tigged in place (love that welder), and I now have to weld in the lower inner panel. I have a few ripples that I believe I will be able to hammer and dolly back to true, but some filler and persuasion will be needed. You can see the highs and lows in the photos. It has taken me a long time to get very little done on his door. Mistakes, learning curves, starting over, wrong parts shipped, what a curse.

But for a happy note. Rear suspension is back together. I just have to torqued the U bolts and she should be good to go. Get shocks, brake lines, fuel tank done, but that is down the road still.

The hours got away on me during this sideways adventure. Here’s the damage:

Cab: 84
Frame: 18
Doors: 44
Fenders: 34.5
Hood: 2.5

Total: 183

🦊😬

I seriously wonder about simply getting reproduction doors but they are pricey, and I seriously doubt they would fit like the originals, even after all my hacking and cutting. If they are anything like other large reproduction panels, it would take a lot to make them work. Maybe I’m blind. Or crazy. Stupid. I don’t know anymore. This door is seriously in my kitchen these days.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a6PiDvFUtjd2WJnc6

Last edited by Fox; Wed May 15 2019 03:16 AM. Reason: Forgot pictures


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1312657
Fri May 31 2019 04:31 PM
Fri May 31 2019 04:31 PM
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Brunswick,Ga.
I love that your tracking your hours. I lost track of the time spent years ago and am still not as far as your are. Lets just call this motivation to moving on my truck. Great read, I'll keep checking in on your progress.


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