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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1274974
Sat Aug 04 2018 03:27 AM
Sat Aug 04 2018 03:27 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
The pillar support, inner kick panel are installed and the rockers have been aligned with the doors. I had to relief cut the reproduction rockers in several places in order to get them to fit just so. The gaps on the doors are quite good considering how much metal I cut out. The door hinges are up next. I’d like to hang the doors next and gap them to the rockers and back cab wall so I can install the cab corners, but I figure I’d better get the hinges up to 100% before I install the final panels.

Hopefully everything will line up. This process has been a challenge for me. I only get to work about an hour or so at a time, so it has taken longer than I expected. I hope to have the floor, rockers, cab corners and door hinges complete by the end of August.

I also cleaned out the parts shed and got rid of a bunch of junk. I put up some local classified ads for some of it. Hopefully it sells and I can put the money toward some things for the c10. I then moved all the C10 parts (most of which will be sold off or junked as I won’t be using a lot of it) into the shed. I also ordered new trailing arm and panhard bar bushings which should arrive by Wednesday.

Cab hours: 43.5

Total: 56


https://photos.app.goo.gl/kPUdenMBpyf2LAT4A












Last edited by Fox; Sat Aug 04 2018 03:38 AM.


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1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1276864
Sun Aug 19 2018 04:27 AM
Sun Aug 19 2018 04:27 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
I made an error when cutting my cab corners and have had to backtrack a bit here. I foolishly cut too much off and when tacked in place they looked okay. I reinstalled the box to check lines and ugh... off. The cab corner curved upward and met the box at a slightly strange angle. The lines were close but not good enough. So I cut them out, picked up new ones ($70 error and time) while we were on holidays, and then I changed gears for a while.

I have, in the meantime, started removing dents in the cab. Some I can hammer and dolly no problem, but others have inaccessible backsides and have to be pulled. The dirtiest one is on the back right corner. It is a deep gouge in the beltline that runs down. I have over 2 hours massaging that one spot alone. Again, I wonder how long an experienced shop might take. If I had an English wheel, I’d be tempted to build a new piece and cut out the old. Many of the dents are very smooth now and may very well be invisible with only a bit of high build primer, whereas a few of the other “dirty” ones will require a skim of filler. I’m quite pleased with how it is progressing. It is slow, but rewarding. I might even forward this link to family members so they can see the progress as I turtle along. 🐢

Here are some pictures:


https://photos.app.goo.gl/n2EgWZXTRxUk9jhKA

Cab hours: 49.5

Total: 62

🦊



Last edited by Fox; Sun Aug 19 2018 04:33 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1276991
Mon Aug 20 2018 03:54 AM
Mon Aug 20 2018 03:54 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
Well, that bloody belt line dent proved too much for pulling. I burned up another couple hours fighting it so I zip cut that portion out and hammered a piece of steel into shape and welded it in. I should have done that to start and saved my time. Oh well, at least I’ll be happier with the end product knowing it’s fresh and clean. I have ground down some of the weld and it looks pretty good. A little filler will have it looking ship shape in the end. I wish I was skilled enough to not use filler at all but that’s beyond me.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MKRAM2g6hZppdbAJ7

Cab hours: 51.5

Total: 64

🦊



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278121
Tue Aug 28 2018 03:20 AM
Tue Aug 28 2018 03:20 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
I continue to pull dents and slowly do cab corners, but I have been doing other little odd jobs to keep me from going cross eyed. After staring at the same task for a while ( sheet metal repair), it’s nice to do something different for a bit. I have stripped the doors in order to prep them for, you guessed it, metal repair. I also bagged and tagged it all and made a little note for disassembly/assembly. The vent windows on an AD truck I found WAY easier to remove/than the 67-72s. I also had to dig into my tickle trunk of cuss words to get it out. Luckily I didn’t damage anything. I can relate to those who have troubles with the inside door handles and window crank removal. If you don’t have the special tool, or you don’t know what you are dealing with, you are very likely going to damage something during disassembly. I have a couple photos that show how this tool slides in behind the handle and pushes on the spring the locks the handle in place. Get this tool. For $7 it’s pretty handy.Those bloody doors took 3 hours to strip! Without the tool I wouldn’t like to know how much more it might have taken.

I also began prepping the frame for some serious surgery. Purists don’t cringe, but I am going to make this truck a short box. I always thought the long boxes looked too long and the shorts just right. However,I think the exact opposite of 73-87s. I don’t like the look of a 73-87 short box. They seem too short. Weird... I have been battling with the idea since I reacquired the truck. Some cousins say,”Cut it down.” Some uncles agree. Others say, “Leave it long.” My wife says, “Long.” But Dad made the deepest impact. “It’s your truck. Make it what you want it to be and enjoy it.”

I removed the front bed mounts from the frame, measured and I made my marks on the frame. The long box will likely be sold and replaced with an aftermarket short bed. I will hang on it it until the project is done though. No cuts yet....

That long box might come in handy if I wanted to build a 72 K50 “Duke”....

Cab hours: 61.5

Frame, other, etc- 13.5

Total: 75

🦊

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ETbMqEyQKJ5uJLMz5

Last edited by Fox; Tue Aug 28 2018 03:29 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278402
Thu Aug 30 2018 02:06 AM
Thu Aug 30 2018 02:06 AM
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53 green 1- ton  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 326
Bucks County, Pa.
Fox,
Is there anything you can’t do?
You never cease to amaze me! Truly envious of your work!
As always, nice job with the trucks as well as the day to day updates on your projects!
Jim


Jim Schmidt.
Bucks County, Pa.
Pix in Photobucket
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1278412
Thu Aug 30 2018 03:37 AM
Thu Aug 30 2018 03:37 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
Well thank you, Jim. I would still love to apprentice under a lot of the fellas here on Stovebolt. Without this site, I’d be lost.



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1279598
Sun Sep 09 2018 04:06 AM
Sun Sep 09 2018 04:06 AM
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doyle1950  Offline
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Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 228
Spruce Grove Alberta Canada
Hey Fox,
We've been going back and forth on Hwy 16 to our campground in BC otherwise we would have stopped to see you this summer. I think we're staying home for a while now and we'll have to come to see you one of these weekend soon.
Great information and journal writing skills you have , must be a school teacher LOL!
Doyle


1950 Chevrolet 5-Window Canadian manufactured 1-Ton with Dump Bed / Hoist
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Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1280390
Sun Sep 16 2018 03:29 AM
Sun Sep 16 2018 03:29 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
Sounds good, Doyle! Let me know.

Back to school, back to school... ugh! Hahaha! It’s been a hectic few weeks to say the least. Last minute camping trips with my family, playing with my little guy, school prep (and shopping), last minute golfing, and of course trying to work on the C10. Sad to say I haven’t touched the truck much. I’ve almost been out of school 20 years and I’m still doing back to school shopping...for myself! Hahaha!

Well, I’m happy to say that I have been playing “par” golf...oh right, the truck! 😉

The reproduction cab corners really are a hit or miss item. I screwed up the first cut on the left hand side so I got a new one as mentioned above. I muscled it into place but of course it’s not perfect. I can massage it some but I feel I will weld it solid to the rocker to make it seamless. The right hand side was an absolute crap shoot. The 2nd patch I got was TERRIBLE. I mean there’s close, not so close, and then there’s “WTF?” That’s how bad its fit was. I pulled the first patch out of the steel bin and proceeded to reuse it. I will return the 2nd and voice my complaint.

However, the first RH patch did not follow the door curvature at all. It was much too straight. When I closed the door, the door stuck out beyond the cab corner by 1/4”. I was mad at this point so I packed it in for about a week. I thought about how to remedy this problem. I proceeded to remove a few tacks, pulled it out slightly and I pie cut that panel along the lip that bends around the door jamb. This allowed me to “accordion” the patch and get the bend needed to fit the door’s curvature. I have more welding to do now, but it fits much better. I will still need to massage the bottom like the left by blending it into the rocker, but I’m happy with how it is turning out.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FdXEmDZXgG1mFQQZA

Cab hours- 63.5

Frame/other- 13.5

Total: 77
🦊

Last edited by Fox; Sun Sep 16 2018 04:17 PM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1282884
Mon Oct 08 2018 02:36 AM
Mon Oct 08 2018 02:36 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
I have the cab corners completed. Those reproductions fought me but I managed to get them to look pretty darn good. Blast, a bit of epoxy, very thin skim of filler and they will look great. I was going to finish the trans tunnel welding but I think I will leave it until I have the engine and transmission in place in case I need to massage the tunnel. So, I am going to tackle the door repair next I think. The LH side has some cancer that has rusted through, I will inspect and clean the drain holes and see if there are other issues to address. After that I will mount and repair the front fenders. Slowly, but I’m still moving forward.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a2t4UToDZcLiuDrN8

Cab hours 74.5

Frame/other:13.5

Total: 88

🦊

Last edited by Fox; Tue Oct 09 2018 03:43 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: Grandpa’s 1970 C10 Rebuild. [Re: Fox] #1283026
Tue Oct 09 2018 03:56 AM
Tue Oct 09 2018 03:56 AM
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Fox  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,408
Breton, Alberta
I started on the LH door today and, oh boy, is the rust worse than I expected. The skin had a couple pin holes but after poking around a lot more issues reared their heads. I have since cut out the bottom rear corner. I tried to open it up as non-invasively as possible but the rust was too much. Out it came. Next, I will need to cut out the underside of the front corner, fix pin holes along the underside, and also figure out how I’m going to do all this. I was frustrated as I pondered this, so I changed gears.

I hammered and dollied a few dents along the crease line on the front LH fender lip. What a dirty bugger. I got it very close to where I can just feel the imperfections. It should be good enough with a little file work. I then cut the bottom rear off the front LH fender and proceeded to make a patch for it. I had to separate the skin overlap and then repair the underlying rust and then fab a new piece to lay back over. It wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be and I hope I can use the lesson here for the up coming door issues.

Today started out rough but ended very well. The front LH fender is done!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/uFQeqEeYRYBZs7MN7

Cab hours: 77.5

Frame/fenders/other: 16.5

Total: 94

🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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