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Does anyone remember what today is? #1260700
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:03 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:03 PM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Offline OP
Boltergeist
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 18,057
Dellrose, TN
And if so, do they care?
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260702
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:40 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:40 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,498
Jarvisburg, NC
Last USA combat troops left Viet Nam - 1973?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260704
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:51 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:51 PM
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Stewart Stewart  Offline
Wrench Fetcher
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 47
Callaway, MD
Actually it was 1975.
But no, I don t remember. and yes I do care.

Stewart

Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260705
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:53 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:53 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,498
Jarvisburg, NC
https://thisdayinusmilhist.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/march-29/

"1973 – Two months after the signing of the Vietnam peace agreement, the last U.S. combat troops leave South Vietnam as Hanoi frees the remaining, admitted, American prisoners of war held in North Vietnam."

Danang in 1975 - Navy left?

Either way, I cared, and I care.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260707
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:56 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 08:56 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,498
Jarvisburg, NC
Are we a different day/date from the day/date at that time-of-day in Viet Nam?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260710
Thu Mar 29 2018 09:22 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 09:22 PM
H
Hotrod Lincoln  Offline OP
Boltergeist
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 18,057
Dellrose, TN


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260713
Thu Mar 29 2018 09:31 PM
Thu Mar 29 2018 09:31 PM
tclederman  Offline
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,498
Jarvisburg, NC
First proclaimed in 2012 as "Vietnam Veterans Day"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vietnam_War_Veterans_Day


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 50 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260762
Fri Mar 30 2018 01:56 AM
Fri Mar 30 2018 01:56 AM
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Volfandt  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,602
Knox County, TN
Vietnam Vets from all over E. TN met and commemorated this day in downtown Knoxville today.

re. Our final operation in The "Nam.
Operation Frequent Wind was carried out on 29–30 April 1975 and was the final official evacuation of all American personnel from in Vietnam. Most from the roof top of the American embassy. Many believe we left countless men behind......
snip:
In 19 hours, 81 helicopters carried more than 1,000 Americans and almost 6,000 Vietnamese to aircraft carriers offshore. Cpl. Charles McMahon, Jr. and Lance Cpl. Darwin Judge, USMC, were the last U.S. military personnel killed in action in Vietnam, when shrapnel from a North Vietnamese rocket struck them as they were guarding Tan Son Nhut Airbase during the evacuation. At 7:53 a.m. on April 30, the last helicopter lifted off the rook of the embassy and headed out to sea.

https://www.mca-marines.org/leatherneck/2016/05/operation-frequent-wind


Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260805
Fri Mar 30 2018 11:04 AM
Fri Mar 30 2018 11:04 AM
John Milliman  Offline
Founder/Developer
Joined: Nov 1995
Posts: 4,034
St. Mary's Co., MD
Volf and others are right -- we're a month off ...

But to clear up some possible misunderstanding of what actually happened -- most helicopters landed on the ground (but still within the embassy compound) as the embassy roof couldn't handle the traffic or the weight of the '53's.

Dirck Halstead's iconic photo -- I interviewed Dirck once for an article and his perspective (as a civilian news photographer) was fascinating.

Another view

The photo you usually see of the UH-1 on a rooftop is actually an Air America aircraft on the roof of the CIA compound -- Not actually/technically part of "Frequent Wind" just the spooks taking care of themselves...

The helo that gets most of the press, Lady Ace 09 from HMM-165 (Had a lot of friends who are White Knights) landed on the roof, but that was a special mission. God love the man (he was XO of The Basic School when I became a compass-holding Danger to Others), he is an entertaining speaker and a colorful leader, but not the "last" helo out of Saigon -- that dubious honor belongs to a CH-53:

"By the end of April 1975, no less than 13 North Vietnamese regiments ringed the South Vietnamese capital of Saigon and the diplomatic staff faced the obvious but hard truth that it was time to go.

"At 10 am, April 29, 1975, an order flashed to the fleet -- commence Operation Frequent Wind.

"The 23 Sea Stallions from HMHs 462 and 463 aboard USS Tripoli and USS Hancock were joined by 27 CH-46s from HMM-165, six UH-1s from HML-367 and eight AH-1Js from HMA 369. Additionally, 10 Air Force CH-53’s that had arrived onboard the aircraft carrier USS Midway from Clark Air Base in the Philippines, joined the package which was enroute to Saigon at 3pm.

"At the height of the operation, approximately 2 am on April 30, a CH-46 and a CH-53 were landing at the embassy every 10 minutes, guided by an AH-1J Sea Cobra.

"When “Swift 22,” a Marine Corps CH-53D, completed the last evacuation (the embassy security force) at 7:53 am, April 30, the largest helicopter evacuation on record had used 81 helicopters in a 19-hour period to lift 978 Americans and nearly 6,000 Vietnamese to safety aboard the ships of the 7th Fleet.

"Two hours later, the South Vietnamese government officially surrendered to the invaders."

-- Excerpted from an article I wrote for the '53D retirement. (My sources included the participating units' Unit Diaries/History, interviews with participants (including the photog referenced above) and the Official USMC history of Operation Frequent Wind.)

A sad day. But Frequent Wind was a good plan, hastily drawn up and expertly executed. Not the chaotic mess most would have you believe. The cool and capable professionalism of the Marines and Air Force (who executed it) is a bright spot in an otherwise ignominious chapter of diplomatic history. Of course, these same crews had practiced the whole thing only 2 weeks previously in a place called Phnom Penh ... (Operation Eagle Pull). And just two weeks later, on May 12, Marines of the III Marine Amphibious Force located at Utapao, Thailand and U.S. Air Force HH-53 and CH-53 aircraft located in Thailand, were on their way to Koh Tang Island to retake the SS Mayaguez (which they did). April and May, 1975 was a busy time...

Semper Fi,
John



John

'49 Chevrolet 3804
'70 Boston Whaler Sakonnet w/ '84 Evinrude 90

Re: Does anyone remember what today is? [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1260836
Fri Mar 30 2018 01:53 PM
Fri Mar 30 2018 01:53 PM
Justhorsenround  Offline
Grease Monkey
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,937
Central, Oklahoma
Thanks John, your account is what I was familiar with, so I was confused by some of the other posts. I was long back home by the time all that began but watched it unfold on the TV. Brave men flying those rattletraps.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

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