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Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1255037
Thu Feb 15 2018 02:28 AM
Thu Feb 15 2018 02:28 AM
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52vff  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 241
Brantford, ON, Canada
That is definitely a bummer for having to move it, but it'll be great once you are able to start working on it. By the way, mine was about that bad for chalky paint too, in fact it almost looked pink. Many hours later, using elbow grease and electric buffer with medium to fine polishing compound has put quite a shine to it.


1952 Chevrolet 1700 Bickle Seagrave
the fire truck
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1256628
Tue Feb 27 2018 01:47 PM
Tue Feb 27 2018 01:47 PM
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4100 Fire Truck  Offline OP
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 136
Cedar Falls, Iowa
I got my 4100 fire truck safely delivered last week and it is now in my driveway. Everything looks pretty good and it finally got warm enough to do a few things yesterday. Bought a new 12 volt battery. Found a group 25 battery with terminals in the right place, and it fits great. Most of the lights and horn work, even the spot lights, and the red light on top, other than it doesn't spin. Siren didn't work though. Pulled the oil drain plug and a 6 inch turd of sludge came out first then clear oil, so it was filled with ND oil. I am going to take my chances and use modern 10w-30 though. Pulled the plugs and squirted a little oil in each cylinder and will try and spin engine first with no plugs. Still need to drain, refill radiator and empty fuel tank, and I will disconnect the line at the carb to see if fuel pump is working, and add fresh fuel. It is a low mile truck with only 2370 miles on it so I hope the engine starts and runs well. Then I have to fix the brakes, which will probably need a new master, and wheel cylinders if I can find them. The truck also has a Barton front pump which I actually have the original manual for. But that will be a while before I try and get it operating. Also have original owners manual, and the original purchase agreement dated June 9, 1950 at a price of $1300 for the cab/chassis with a GVW of 11000 lbs. The truck is pretty cool with everything original still there, except the missing floor mat. Did they originally have padding under the mat?
http://oi67.tinypic.com/15wnc7d.jpg

Last edited by 4100 Fire Truck; Tue Feb 27 2018 01:57 PM.
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1256667
Tue Feb 27 2018 06:17 PM
Tue Feb 27 2018 06:17 PM
69Cuda  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,910
Seattle, Wa.
way cool! You may very well get by with honing the master and wheel cylinders and putting kits in them. Please make sure to also replace all steel and rubber brake lines as they deteriorate from the inside-out. They may look useable on the outside but, be gummed up on the inside (rubber hoses) or in the case of the steel lines, be paper thin and ready to split once any pressure is applied.


Mike

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Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1256668
Tue Feb 27 2018 06:28 PM
Tue Feb 27 2018 06:28 PM
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TPR57C  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 810
NSW Australia
Cool truck enjoy


57 3200 pickup 265 V8 with service tray
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257067
Fri Mar 02 2018 03:32 AM
Fri Mar 02 2018 03:32 AM
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Mike B  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,642
Hughesville, MD
Cool truck!

2X 69Cuda...replace ALL of the brake lines, rubber AND steel.

Mike B smile

Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257189
Sat Mar 03 2018 12:30 AM
Sat Mar 03 2018 12:30 AM
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52vff  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 241
Brantford, ON, Canada
That's awesome. If brakes have any pitting in the bores from moisture you may consider having them sleeved with stainless, they'll outlast you. And of course all lines as already said. With that low a mileage with some tlc I'll bet it'll be running great in no time.
For the siren take her apart and I'll bet you'll be able to lubricate and clean it up enough to work, also check all contacts for the front light while your there, it often had a flasher for it. The rotating light might also just need clean up, but a small replacement motor can be had if needed as well.


1952 Chevrolet 1700 Bickle Seagrave
the fire truck
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257226
Sat Mar 03 2018 05:25 AM
Sat Mar 03 2018 05:25 AM
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Mike B  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,642
Hughesville, MD
Before you tear into the siren and light, check the electrical terminations, you may have a bad switch or ground...

Mike B smile

Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257316
Sat Mar 03 2018 11:49 PM
Sat Mar 03 2018 11:49 PM
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4100 Fire Truck  Offline OP
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 136
Cedar Falls, Iowa
Thanks for the replies on the lights, and siren. I'm supposed to be an electrician, so I should be able to figure out the problem. Fixing it is usually the bigger problem and It's been converted to 12v with an alternator, which will make some things more complicated. I made my first attempt to start it yesterday after plenty of preparation, but no go. After checking a few things, I couldn't get my timing light to flash while cranking. Figured it was the points, which were burnt, but I managed to break off the concentric adjusting screw for the points. It's been decades since I have replaced points, and after I broke it I figured it out of course. Fixed it by tapping the hole for another screw which will work fine, if not better. Gave me a chance to clean up the distributor, and look it over though. The vacuum advance works, but it leaks. Haven't seen a replacement part yet. Not even close to original, but maybe a HEI is the way to go eventually. Hoping to get a chance to try to fire it again tomorrow.

Last edited by 4100 Fire Truck; Sat Mar 03 2018 11:53 PM.
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257435
Sun Mar 04 2018 11:11 PM
Sun Mar 04 2018 11:11 PM
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4100 Fire Truck  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 136
Cedar Falls, Iowa
Tried the 2nd attempt at starting the ole 235 today after replacing the points. Engine started in about 3 seconds, and runs very smooth with no smoke. But under the valve cover a really terrible rattle is there above idle. Not a tap, tap, tap, but what sounds like a bunch of rocks flying around. Never heard a sound like it. More snow coming tommorw, so I didn't feel like investigating until the weather warms back up. At least it runs great for the 5 minutes I ran it.

Last edited by 4100 Fire Truck; Sun Mar 04 2018 11:13 PM.
Re: First post 4100 Fire Truck [Re: 4100 Fire Truck] #1257473
Mon Mar 05 2018 12:29 PM
Mon Mar 05 2018 12:29 PM
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Jeler  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 162
Solon,Iowa
Hello and Welcome from just down the road in Solon,IA

Great looking truck, looking forward to read about and see your progress.

You've come to the right place with lots of folks that will be here to help.

Am waiting warmer weather here too!

Jeff


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