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Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1254205
Thu Feb 08 2018 04:51 PM
Thu Feb 08 2018 04:51 PM
tclederman  Online
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,560
Jarvisburg, NC
I can easily cruise at 60-65 mph (around 2300-2500 RPM) on a modern highway: high pressure 235/261, with wider diameter radial tires on original wheels, and 3.55 rear end.

I will not tell you my top speed (for short durations - not a cruising speed) in my 1954 enclosed driveshaft Suburban with a 270 cubic inch 261, and one two-barrel GMC 302 carburetor with adjustable jets. It is 20-30 mph over the speed limit.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 47 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1254989
Wed Feb 14 2018 06:32 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 06:32 PM
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Central IL, again
Don, a stock 49 3600 would not have a 4.10, originally. It would have come with a 4.57, and 5.14 was optional.
In 2010 I made a 300+ mile trip in my 50 3600. With no working speedo I had my wife following me. I told her to hold her speed steady at 55, as much as she could. I did my best to keep a consistent space between us. So I think I averaged 55 for most of it. The old truck did just fine. Loud, but fine. The oil consumption was another matter. smile

Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1254994
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:12 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:12 PM
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How many folks remember the severe brake fading of drum brakes when trying to stop right now at decent speed? You can push the brake pedal as hard as you can with no effect! Scary.

I'm happy with 45 MPH and I stay off of I-90 (speed limit 80 MPH).


1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet

26 Years of Daily Driving. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1254997
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:29 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:29 PM
tclederman  Online
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Posts: 27,560
Jarvisburg, NC
I was referring to travelling on Interstate 90 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike (65/70 MPH in NY/MA).

Fade happens from "riding" (frequently using) the brakes. Never had that problem on an Interstate. I have had that problem on country roads, and go more slowly on them, for all sorts of reasons.

Trivia questions:
- what is the longest Interstate in USA?
- what are its endpoints?

It is also one of the few Interstate Highways that has a stoplight.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 47 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Top speed [Re: tclederman] #1255000
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:39 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:39 PM
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klhansen  Offline
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Eagle River, Alaska
Originally Posted by tclederman
It is also one of the few Interstate Highways that has a stoplight.

Not anymore - the traffic light was "buried" in 1991. smile
I won't give away the answer to the question, but it's obviously one of the East-West routes.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck.
Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1255005
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:56 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:56 PM
tclederman  Online
Boltergeist
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,560
Jarvisburg, NC

Ooops, I was way off - gone in 1990/91?

Thanks for the correction, Kevin

I think that Interstate might have some of the longest floating roads/bridges?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 47 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1255006
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:59 PM
Wed Feb 14 2018 07:59 PM
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It took a longtime to complete I-90 through Wallace, ID. The interstate tapered down to the city (town?) streets and there was a stop light but not on the true freeway itself. I heard of someone new in Wallace telling relatives in New York come and see them by going west on I-90 and taking the left at the first light.

Driving at night in Wyoming in our '65 Impala (4-door hardtop with 3-speed stick shift and overdrive no less!), I had to slam the brakes for a big buck mule deer standing sideways and staring me down. The brakes reached a point where they had no effect. Was able to miss the buck but I never wanted to drive beyond drum brakes. Coming down steep passes could also be a problem if not geared down as needed. Drum brakes can go away.


1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet

26 Years of Daily Driving. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
Re: Top speed [Re: 52Carl] #1255300
Sat Feb 17 2018 06:23 AM
Sat Feb 17 2018 06:23 AM
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Bolter Finally  Offline
New Guy
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 20
Rochester, NY
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Mr Milliman is spot on. I have driven a number of these trucks varying from well worn to completely rebuilt suspensions, and they have varied from really scary to "I'll bet I can do 100".
As far as new shocks affect the ride, I have had the bottom rear shock bolt come off of the lower shock mount and could not perceive any difference in the ride.
Having experienced that, I do not believe that new shocks are the first item I would look at to solve a driveability issue. I wouldn't ignore the shocks, but I would not expect much of an improvement from replacing them unless they are rusted stuck.
Big trucks don't even have shocks, do they?


52Carl, I didn't expect to get any drivability improvement from the shocks. I just needed to add some more to my NAPA order to get an additional discount.


Jim

1955 Chevy series 2
6 cylinder, 3 on the tree
Short bed, step side
Re: Top speed [Re: Don huffer] #1255304
Sat Feb 17 2018 12:19 PM
Sat Feb 17 2018 12:19 PM
amtrakjoe  Offline
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Posts: 362
Bucks County - Pennsylvania, ...
I've got a 3800 dually, swapped the 700-18's for 8r19.5's Did the rear swap to 4:10's

The 8r19.5 radials are at 33.5 inches in diameter. I'm hoping I could hold 55 on some long trips, maybe a burst to 60.

1962 full pressure 261 with a mostly fresh SM420, relined shoes all around, new tie-rod ends, new front spring shackles, and actually a new top leaf on the passenger side spring. I found the hole egged out pretty good when I was going after the shackles.

Steering box is tight and full of cornhead grease.

next thing - SEAT BELTS ! Oh yeah and a horn.


In this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well......

A link to a few photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rwnBAvAWFckJTErs2

1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"

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