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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245046 Tue Nov 28 2017 11:57 PM
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Contact Scott Danforth and tell him what you’ve found. He will know what to do to make it right. Meanwhile do some measurements on your 3800 cab mounting points and the mounting points on the frame you are wanting to use. Check the new frame for any signs of damage. The tape is your friend. Be sure to write the measurements down for reference.🛠


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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245048 Wed Nov 29 2017 12:11 AM
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get yourself a copy of the 1947-1954 truck factory assembly manual,
and get out your tape measure, the frame drawings are in the book.
measure the wheel base of what you have

Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245049 Wed Nov 29 2017 12:15 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,490
ace skiver
The 3100, 3600, 3800 all use the same cab/hood/fender/front sheet-metal and mounting hardware/points.

However, there was a change in how cabs mounted (between 47-55), but this can be dealt with.

If/when you get the "recipient" frame, let us know the year.

The 47-54/55 Factory Assembly Manual is actually a 54/55st FAM.

The wheelbase did not change in 1954, but the frame components changed in 1954.


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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245056 Wed Nov 29 2017 12:38 AM
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Posts: 608
"MONGO"
47-53 Frames are mostly the same there are some small differences like 47& early 48 had a different style of cab mount and some of the early frames had Lever action shocks as opposed to tube shocks, Like the guys said it should be doable if you have one of those early frames you'll need to come up with some cab mounts from a 1/2 ton.
The 54 Frame is also pretty similar with one major difference being that the frame kick up over the rear end is lower on the 54, this was because of the new flat side beds.
Here is the frame checking measurements so you can make sure you are good on what you have. http://www.mongosgarage.com/tech/FrameCheckingBig.jpg
The 1/2 Ton frames Taper all the way back (as in the drawing on the link) as opposed to the bigger frames taper to a point then are straight and 36 or so inches wide all the way to the back.
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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245086 Wed Nov 29 2017 03:48 AM
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thanks, KCMongo. This should help me get it figured out


I just finished a 1946 chevy pickup street rod
now on a 1950 chevy 3100
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also a GMC 220 with duals
and a 1948 chevy 2 ton
Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245100 Wed Nov 29 2017 05:21 AM
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Charles, good sense of humor. Many would get all fussy with the comments, Good work. I think they have you on the right track to figure out what you have, then get the correct parts. Very nice project.


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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245620 Mon Dec 04 2017 12:57 AM
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X 2 what bartamos said.
BTW, this is the HiPo Shop, therefore "cleaver" is the correct spelling for what we do in here. Hack things up a bit. smile
Carl

Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245662 Mon Dec 04 2017 05:47 AM
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Carl is wise.


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Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245798 Tue Dec 05 2017 02:00 AM
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Wiseguy maybe...

Re: oh crap
Charles Pretzer #1245889 Tue Dec 05 2017 10:58 PM
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I know on the 3800 that I had (54), the 3800 had a center mount radiator support, whereas my 3600 (and assuming 3100’s) have a 2 side supports.

I didn’t measure to see if there was a difference though.

Worst case scenario, you would need a rad support from a smaller truck.







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