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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1172782 Wed Jul 06 2016 07:30 PM
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I think I may go with the nostalgia look with a dual quad 283. I saw a few in the 60's and they were fearful. No one had the money in those days to buy a 409. I also am buying an original radio for the looks. I read that an S-10 4-speed tranny will hook up with the 283. I plan to change the rear end and have the drive shaft modified.


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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1172804 Wed Jul 06 2016 10:23 PM
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Here's a sneaky trick to make that 283 a sleeper. 58CC 305 cylinder heads have the same combustion chamber volume as the old 283 "Power Pack" heads, and they've got the bolt holes on the ends of the heads for accessory mounting. They're also 40 years newer and you're much more likely to find a set of heads in good condition without a massive rebuild. The 305 heads will take bigger valves than the 283's and a little pocket porting will really make them breathe. Couple that with enough valve spring to turn about 7500 RPM, and you'll have a real screamer!
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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1172871 Thu Jul 07 2016 04:07 AM
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I've never met a guy with a big block that wished they used a small block. The other way around, though...


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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1172946 Thu Jul 07 2016 09:13 PM
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The boat was too big for a small block to anchor it?
eeeek
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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1173163 Sat Jul 09 2016 09:19 PM
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I think I have changed my mind 50 times but the more I read the more I think the easiest decision is to go with the 283 even though I have a 409 truck engine. I say this because it looks like to much cutting and chopping to stuff that big block in position, not even mentioning changing the front end, brakes and steering. I also realize that the 283 will require some cutting and steering box shifting but not nearly as much.


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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1173171 Sat Jul 09 2016 10:18 PM
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That's a good decision. You'll enjoy that sweet purring 283 and it won't be half as sensitive.

....now, since your not using it I could come get that 409 out of your way if you'd like. I like road trips!


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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1173209 Sun Jul 10 2016 03:51 AM
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If I were to ever put a V-8 in my truck the 409 would be right at the top of the list. In this day and age putting electronic fuel injection on an engine is easy and not really all that expensive in the context of how much this swap will cost. The end result would be much improved fuel economy along with good power as well. There is many setups that give you the vintage look. It would be worth looking at anyway.
















Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1174461 Mon Jul 18 2016 03:13 PM
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Just to add a thought: As a choice for a engine swap from 6 to 8, the 350 is an option. Their are probably many more of these around now than any other therefore parts are cheaper and easier to find.


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Re: 409 or 283
BIG CHEVY 3600 #1174632 Tue Jul 19 2016 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG CHEVY 3600
Just to add a thought: As a choice for a engine swap from 6 to 8, the 350 is an option. Their are probably many more of these around now than any other therefore parts are cheaper and easier to find.


Huh?

The 350 externally is the same as the 283. Not only that, but performance parts fit both engines. Why would he buy a 350 when he has a perfectly good 283?


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Re: 409 or 283
Woj #1174655 Tue Jul 19 2016 09:47 PM
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Does not matter if it was a truck motor or if it has speed or if it's hard to fit. It's looks, the fact you can say it has a 409 in It, is way more desirable. What other motor has a Beach Boys song named after it? Are you kidding? A 409? Dual Quads? Do it, she's real fine. Giddy up!

P.S. Very valuable $$$$$$ motor. The "nostalgic effect".


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