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#1158935 Thu Apr 07 2016 02:15 AM
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'Bolter
The screws on my '54 driver side lower windlace holder came out without a problem. My passenger side one are much more rusted, nearly stripped, and they are stuck. I've soaked them in penetrating oil, tried everything and they won't budge. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on what I may be able to do?

Last edited by 1942ChevyPfost; Thu Apr 07 2016 02:15 AM.

1942 BK 1/2 Ton Pickup
1954 3800 1 Ton Pickup
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Bubba - Curmudgeon
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/bolt_removal.html

Try propane torch heat.

Try penetrating oil and tapping/punching with a hammer on a screwdriver in the head of the screw.

Try to punch the screw from below.

Can you get a vise-grip on the head?

My WAG regarding why the "outside" screws are harder to remove: that's the wetter side of the road?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
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Wrench Fetcher
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a windlace? I've seen it mentioned on here before but never any pictures and I've Googled it without results.

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Bubba - Curmudgeon
It is one name for the rubber seal that is attached to the door opening on the cab: the "door opening weatherstrip"

In your 1953, the upper windlace (door opening weatherstrip) is held in a channel that goes around the opening of the door - except at the floor, at the door opening (see link below, "body sill weatherstrip retainer").

In the lower door opening - at the floor, that lower rubber windlace seal in held down with a metal strip.

lower windlace

door opening, upper windlace

Here is the metal strip - lower windlace retainer (referred-to in step 11: "body sill weatherstrip retainer")


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 36
G
Wrench Fetcher
Thanks. I need to replace all mine as well.

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'Bolter
Yeah, I wanted to see if I could get it without a torch since they are in the interior of the cab. I don't want to discolor the paint on the rail. Although the screws are rusted the rail is in great shape. I tried hammering with a screw driver but they just don't budge.

I've never drilled out a screw and wasn't sure if maybe that could be an option. Or maybe a screw extractor (also never used)


1942 BK 1/2 Ton Pickup
1954 3800 1 Ton Pickup
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Those are sheet metal screws if I remember correctly, and you can access the bottom of the screw from under the cab (again, if I remember correctly.
Soak the bottom with PB to start. If that doesn't work use the torch on the bottom or use a hand grinder and grind the point of the screw off. The heat and vibration will loosen them up.

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'Bolter
Okay, so I actually got them out! I drilled them out just enough to get a better seat with the screwdriver. I tapped them enough with a hammer and they spun out. Thanks!


1942 BK 1/2 Ton Pickup
1954 3800 1 Ton Pickup
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Posts: 31,815
Bubba - Curmudgeon
congratulations


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,646
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We have a tech tip in the works on installing cab windlace. It looks pretty straight forward (well written). It should be easy to put together. We are waiting for two more images.

Peg

Last edited by Peggy M; Fri Apr 08 2016 05:16 PM.

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