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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1137152 Tue Dec 01 2015 01:23 AM
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Edited - I don't think the truck came with a fuse block, or a fuse block cover, but you can trace the wires to see what it goes to.

Stick with Volfandt's process for now.

Brad



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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
Uncle Brad #1137160 Tue Dec 01 2015 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Brad
Edited - I don't think the truck came with a fuse block, or a fuse block cover, but you can trace the wires to see what it goes to.

Stick with Volfandt's process for now.

Brad

1949 Chevrolet truck fuse box/block - figure 3
I connect read the name under STOP LIGHT?


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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1137186 Tue Dec 01 2015 03:05 AM
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exploded diagram

There is a fuse box for sure... I best do some studying up.

Brad


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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1137192 Tue Dec 01 2015 03:25 AM
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Tim,

Looks like Horn Terminals to me...

Mike B smile

Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
Uncle Brad #1137317 Tue Dec 01 2015 08:58 PM
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Mike B. is right.There is a horn terminal ,one for high beam , I think low beam and brake&tail lights .


Jerry
Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1137361 Wed Dec 02 2015 01:38 AM
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Often when working on a modified truck(yours is converted to 12 Volt so modified) Things get lost that matter.
1, There is a fuse block: 2 of them. Stop lights, and head lights.
2, the wire from the key switch to the coil(+) needs to go to a ballast resistor, or, a 12 Volt(internal Ballast resisted) coil.
3, The points must be clean and make a good connection. They must be properly gapped.
4 the horn terminal...is often a relay. It is mounted on the Regulator in many cases.
No I am not attempting to be a hard a$$. I just need to know what the issues are. The above post, with the volts test points open and then closed is good advise. The concern is a 6 Volt coil and no ballast resistor will be a problem. A 12 Volt internal resisted coil will not. There are ways to find out if the coil is working. Again the above post the suggested opening and closing the points is good. You should have a spark when the points open. If the key is on. For those times when a lot of tools are not available, A finger nail will work to pop the points open. If a feeler gauge is not available, a matchbook cover will get the point gap close. If the coil is a 6 Volt unit, it will get hot, and quit after a while. If the coil is a 12 Volt coil and you put a ballast resistor in line with it, well the spark if it works will be weak. A 6 Volt coil will be close to 1.5 Ohms across the + and - connections. A 12 Volt coil will be close to 3 Ohms across the + to - connections. The arithmetic works out to about 4 Amps at the points. if the coil is matched to the Volts. So a 1.5 Ohm ballast resistor will work for a 6 Volt coil in a 12 Volt system. If you use the same resistor in line with a 12 Volt coil, then the current at the points is too low and the coil will not provide a spark. So it matters.

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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1137998 Sat Dec 05 2015 11:46 PM
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I want to thank you'all for your help with this. My problem has been solved. I never did get'er running but I sold the truck today.


Jerry
Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1138156 Sun Dec 06 2015 11:02 PM
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that's one way to eliminate a headache... what are you going to buy to replace it?


Another quality post.


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Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1138329 Mon Dec 07 2015 10:01 PM
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Rusty brings up a good point!
We nearly had to throw bartamos out of the "club" for going too long without a Stovebolt in possession. (He has since complied).
It is acceptable to at least imply the attempt of looking to secure one in the near future. smile
Carl

Re: 54 Chevy no spark no start
jer3545 #1138340 Mon Dec 07 2015 11:58 PM
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I don't have a "stovebolt" anymore either... but my Binder has a 327 heartbeat and the Coupe has a 502.


Another quality post.


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