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Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1116099
Tue Jul 28 2015 12:59 PM
Tue Jul 28 2015 12:59 PM
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32vld  Offline
Shop Shark
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 997
Hauppauge, New York
You gave it your best. No one can do more.

Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1116174
Wed Jul 29 2015 02:05 AM
Wed Jul 29 2015 02:05 AM
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eagleuh1  Offline
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Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 297
Ar, US
Above and beyond the call, Don. Hope you get it figured out and running well again. You can rest easy now. Jim

Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1116190
Wed Jul 29 2015 02:59 AM
Wed Jul 29 2015 02:59 AM
2-Ton  Offline OP
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,734
Mokane ,Mo.
I want to thank everyone again for the support.
Part of the bonus of driving an old rig is the possiblity of a breakdown and then the challenge of getting it back going again.
Like Cletis at the Reunion last year and his alternater when it quit. I enjoyed helping out.


Really glad I made the effort and not have to have guilt, of not trying at all. I'll do some trouble shooting when it cools off some.
My brother-in-law is a forien car mechanic and will help me out some with the trouble shooting.
And Mike, it only has one truck battery.
I'll do some more checking of the wiring system in a few days.
Sure could use some of Sweet's tuneup expertise now.

Thanks
Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'48 3/4-ton grain truck
'48 1-1/2-ton flatbed
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
'54 Plymouth Belvedere
'76 TR-6
'82 Jeep CJ-8 Scrambler
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.

Pix on Photobucket
Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1116216
Wed Jul 29 2015 05:15 AM
Wed Jul 29 2015 05:15 AM
1953 panel  Offline
Master Gabster
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 6,353
Oakwood, Ontario Canada
Originally Posted By 2-Ton

Sure could use some of Sweet's tuneup expertise now.
another reason to get the ODSS crew out to KC in Sept.

Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1117826
Fri Aug 07 2015 01:37 PM
Fri Aug 07 2015 01:37 PM
2-Ton  Offline OP
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,734
Mokane ,Mo.
Got back to it yesterday and Mike was right, it was something simple.
Battery shot craps on me and would only put out 3 volts, just enough to spin two lights slow, but not enough to do anything else.
It's really my fault, it's the old style battery with caps that you have to check the water every once in a while. Guess I got used to the newer batteries, that you don't check and I never did.
Put a good battery in and it fired right up.
Laid a tarp down and installed the driveshaft.
Pulled it to a good spot next to Brother-in-laws auto repair shop and put the flagpole up to draw attention.
I'll get it home early next week when I can get the wife to take me over there.

Thanks for the support and I would try it again if given the chance.
Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'48 3/4-ton grain truck
'48 1-1/2-ton flatbed
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
'54 Plymouth Belvedere
'76 TR-6
'82 Jeep CJ-8 Scrambler
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.

Pix on Photobucket
Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1118251
Mon Aug 10 2015 05:57 AM
Mon Aug 10 2015 05:57 AM
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Mike B  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,717
Hughesville, MD
Glad to hear it was a simple fix...

Mike B smile

Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1120599
Mon Aug 24 2015 04:14 AM
Mon Aug 24 2015 04:14 AM
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Mikestem  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 612
St. Louis, MO
Don,

As usual, I'm late to the party, but wanted to put a couple of ideas in front of you about your battery.

I had a similar experience to you a few years ago. Coming home from a night event, and the lights got dimmer and dimmer. Got off the highway, and the truck gave out turning up the hill - blocking traffic! Ran out of juice, because the charging system wasn't charging.

So . . . do you know for sure that it was just the battery, and not a failed charging system? If your truck has a voltmeter, it should read 13-14 volts when you're running. Remember that you have to put in higher voltage than the system to "fill" the battery back up. If the truck has an ammeter, it should read in the positive, especially right after cranking to start, then settle towards "even".

You can also use a volt-meter at the battery terminals to determine if the generator is charging the battery. Check the battery voltage before starting the truck (should be 12.6-13.2). Then, test it again with the truck running. Should be over 14, though over 13 will get you by probably.

It would be frustrating to find out with your new battery, that the charging system isn't working, and you get stranded again!

Good on ya' for trying - your efforts will be rewarded in some way. Cosmic Karma demands it. Call me if you want to chat.

-Michael


Please type slow, as I can't read very fast.

1939 Chevy/Central Fire Engine
1941 Chevy/American Fire Engine
1950 Chevy/American Fire Engine
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Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: 2-Ton] #1120650
Mon Aug 24 2015 06:01 PM
Mon Aug 24 2015 06:01 PM
2-Ton  Offline OP
Shop Shark
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,734
Mokane ,Mo.
Thanks Michael
It was the battery. Put a new one in and it fired right up and the amp guage showed a good charge. To double check, I unhooked one of the battery cabbles and the engine kept running off the big alternator.
It was mostly my fault since the big truck battery that was in it, had caps to add water.
I guess I have gotten used to not having to add water to batteries and never did check it.
Hope you are still considering going to the KC Reunion next month. Don't worry about bringing a truck, there will be plenty there and you will have a great time meeting everyone.

Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'48 3/4-ton grain truck
'48 1-1/2-ton flatbed
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
'54 Plymouth Belvedere
'76 TR-6
'82 Jeep CJ-8 Scrambler
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.

Pix on Photobucket
Re: Breaks my heart (Mission Failed) [Re: Mikestem] #1233952
Fri Sep 08 2017 07:38 PM
Fri Sep 08 2017 07:38 PM
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Brian Begley  Offline
New Guy
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 3
Wichita, Kansas USA
please let me know if you can advise me for parts and manual for a ua 50


Own a 1965 Chevrolet firetruck with a UA 50 front mounted Barton American.
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