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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Deve] #1100322 Fri May 01 2015 02:16 AM
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Boltergeist
Originally Posted by Deve
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1947-1953 yes? 8 pages and each truck was the exact same interior color for those years, and only one reference on page one of this thread for the interior. I can see the exterior being in question, alot, but these interiors and heaters were all the same color.

All interior colors (standard cabs) were the same for 47-53?

What do you think GM was referring to in this Chevrolet Service News? 1950 and part of 1951 might have had some parts painted a different interior color.

1953, supposedly, had another (different) interior color.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100325 Fri May 01 2015 02:28 AM
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Deve Offline
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That was probably due to different vendors providing similar items. No telling what their standards and tolerances were. I am thinking not very stringent at the time. Thats what makes this so maddening! I am sure you can find evidence that things were not standardized everywhere, but what was the standard?

So, paint your interior blue if you wish. But the standard, and the largest amount of trucks from those years were painted the same. The problem comes in when your usual Stovebolter asks what color is my interior supposed to be. Do you really want to muddy the water with 'some' parts might have not been made to the standard? What we need is to be able to answer the guys question. How do you suggest we resolve it?


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
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More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Deve] #1100328 Fri May 01 2015 02:36 AM
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Boltergeist
Originally Posted by Deve
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But the standard, and the largest amount of trucks from those years were painted the same. The problem comes in when your usual Stovebolter asks what color is my interior supposed to be. Do you really want to muddy the water with 'some' parts might have not been made to the standard? What we need is to be able to answer the guys question. How do you suggest we resolve it?


Are you proposing a one-size/color fits all? 1947-1953 interiors? No matter what GM listed as color names?

Do you think that GM changed the names but not the actual colors?

Are you proposing not to "muddy the waters" because that allows a simple but perhaps incorrect answer?

I propose that we provide original information and let posters know what many other people (thoughtful people like Woody, Denny, others) have chosen to handle this confusing situation.

No need to preach or cajole or insult. Just provide information.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100335 Fri May 01 2015 02:54 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. At least every original truck I have ever seen, 100's in the junkyards all over a 4 state area are all the same interior color with a few exceptions. I always attributed that to a designer spray can. If GM changed the colors, my bet it was because some vendor didnt adher to a standard. Did that get lost somewhere in your thinking? We dont freakin know! So in this particular thread.. a place where your genius belongs..

I am a new member of the Stovebolt and I want to know what color was original in my 47-53 Chevy truck. After all of these pages, isn't it about time to resolve the answer?

NOTE: TRUTH IS... I have two cabs to paint interiors on. Both are 1950 although I have a 1953 waiting after that. I would like for someone to just come out and SAY it! And I am one of the first members here! And I still don't know!


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
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The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100336 Fri May 01 2015 03:02 AM
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Boltergeist

The GM/Chevrolet A-D interior color names/codes are in the Tech Tip shown 8-pages back.

Those names/codes came from these GM documents.

If someone has the Truck Data Books from the missing years, please scan and post the "color Combinations" pages (1948, 1950, 1952 - Brad?).

People can and should paint their interiors whatever color/colors they like. But, we should be careful about saying/posting that the interior color/colors were the same from 1947-53.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100338 Fri May 01 2015 03:14 AM
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Deve Offline
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Am I reading that 50-53 are the same? So yes, lets get this resolved. Hopefully we can come up with 47-49. Interiors only of course. Not to be a pain, but thats EXACTLY what I am trying to be. I could take you around the salvage yards and everywhere you go, the interiors are faded, but they are all the same color originally. You can just see it. I know a 49 that I owned was the same as 1950 and I also have a 48 that is the same. No idea on 47.

Tim, I dont care what you think of me, I admire your persistence in the mission to find facts on our trucks. Its something we all need. Thanks.


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
In the Stovebolt Gallery
The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1103881 Thu May 21 2015 03:04 AM
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Great News! The elusive interior paints for the task force truck is easily available:
1955-1959 dash\ upper cab paint: Comanche Gold Mettalic - DUCO 92863
1955-1959 underdash\lower can paint: Charcoal - DUCO 73650

http://www.paintscratch.com
Under 1959>Chevrolet>all other models

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1105763 Sun May 31 2015 10:13 PM
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I think the real problem is that there is clearly a paint color identified for later AD's (Hysheen Gray/Sheen Gray Metallic) in Official Documentation from Chevrolet that does not seem to be remembered by anyone left in the whole wide world who can describe it or produce a paint chip/formula/DuPont-Duco # for a match. It almost certainly has to be a cooler, lighter gray color than the earlier standard.

I have seen several AD interiors that did NOT have the warm gray/champagne/tan cast in their interiors and they look more visually pleasing to me than the usual bronzecap whatever that everyone seems to spout the party line about. One of my cabs has such a color on the dash. I am holding a piece of windlacing right now that matches that dash and it is not tan or bronze in any way.

If anyone can produce a paint chip or documentation as to what this "Sheen Gray Metallic" was, they would do a great service to Stovebolters everywhere.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1126978 Wed Sep 30 2015 12:52 AM
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I always have used paintref site

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 53Cowboy] #1126980 Wed Sep 30 2015 01:09 AM
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Boltergeist
Originally Posted by 53Cowboy
I always have used paintref site

53Cowboy,

Do you have a link to the interior color names/codes shown at the paintref site?

Originally Posted by stoveboltgator
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If anyone can produce a paint chip or documentation as to what this "Sheen Gray Metallic" was, they would do a great service to Stovebolters everywhere.

Stoveboltgator,

The Dupont and PPG code numbers are shown in this Stovebolt Tech Tip - 47-55 truck colors. Even with those codes, PPG and Dupont might not have "formulae/recipes/mixture" for those colors. A phone number for PPG is given in the Tech Tip.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
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