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#721771 - Thu Feb 17 2011 09:41 AM This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it?
FJP899 Offline
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Registered: Thu Oct 28 2010 10:56 PM
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Loc: CT
Photo says it all. Looks fabricated to me but I've never seen a real VIN plate in a 1950 3100, just the reproductions available in catalogs. '50 Vin plate
Thoughts?
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#721797 - Thu Feb 17 2011 10:18 AM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: FJP899]
Brad Allen Offline
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Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
Most of them look like this by now (see picture) I think you have the original plate that someone cleaned off and restamped with the additional numbers. The only number stamped on a 1950 Chevrolet plate is the serial number. The number at the bottom has the correct look and spacing of the originals (I have owned 11 1950 trucks).

http://community.webshots.com/photo/2061376250102454676qYjVOU


Edited by Brad Allen (Thu Feb 17 2011 10:22 AM)
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#721798 - Thu Feb 17 2011 10:19 AM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: FJP899]
Justhorsenround Offline
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Registered: Thu Apr 21 2005 12:00 PM
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Loc: El Reno, Oklahoma
Homemade, hand stamped. First clue is the phillips head screws holding it on. Depending on the Law Enforcement agency stopping you the shown plate could get your truck impounded and you arrested.
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#721800 - Thu Feb 17 2011 10:20 AM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: Justhorsenround]
Brad Allen Offline
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Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
Screwed on plates is correct for 1947-1950 trucks they do not attach with rivets until 1951 onward.
Ok in owning 25 trucks Chevrolet and GMC this is what I have come across:

Phillips screws 1949-50 only, it seems a unique screw always the same NF with a flat point 3-4 trucks my own included (purchased from original owner).
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2917615890102454676KACyfz

Clutch head type unique though becasue they have a head like a bolt 8-9 trucks 47-early 49 usually.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2612842870102454676nYHeFa
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2493107830102454676JMVBEB

Rivets always on the 1951-55 1st Series 11-12 trucks. Notice the 53 plate with extra numbers.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2074469990102454676dIwcIS
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2344936220102454676Nqmtbj

I am curious what others may have found.


Edited by Brad Allen (Thu Feb 17 2011 11:42 AM)
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#721809 - Thu Feb 17 2011 10:32 AM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: Brad Allen]
tclederman Offline
Registered: Tue Sep 18 2001 12:00 PM
Posts: 20774
Loc: Castleton-on-Hudson, NY

Here is a reproduction 1950 door-post ID plate. The stamping would only been in the rectangular box at the bottom of the plate.

The plate in the first post is an after-market plate.

Jim Carter states that the 1950 (47-50) plates were originally screwed-on with clutch-head screws.
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#721858 - Thu Feb 17 2011 12:13 PM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: tclederman]
Tiny Offline
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Loc: South Central Kansas
The data plate on my '38 is held on by clutch/hex head screws. I've never seen any like them before. I've not found any place to buy replacements. I told the body man when they were prepping for paint that if he lost them the paint job was free. grin

Data plate screw.
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#721863 - Thu Feb 17 2011 12:24 PM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: Tiny]
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Loc: Castleton-on-Hudson, NY

Good idea, Tiny. (nice photo)
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#721877 - Thu Feb 17 2011 01:41 PM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: tclederman]
crenwelge Offline
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Loc: Fredericksburg, Texas
What is on the title? Most 1950 models were titled by engine number. The tag you show was a common replacement for lost tags or when a service cab was installed. I would keep it for the nostalgia of it. If you don't like it, you can install a reproduction plate. Manufacturers did not use chassis or VIN numbers until 1954. The 17 digit VIN as we have it now did not become law until vehicles built after 1981. If you are concerned about the regulations in your state, get on the department of vehicles and titling in your state. I would not ask an enforcement officer, because they usually don't know. If you live in CT, they are one of the more difficult states.
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#721882 - Thu Feb 17 2011 01:53 PM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: crenwelge]
nrdesieyes Offline
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Registered: Wed Sep 08 2010 02:53 AM
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The upper sets of lettering are all new, but the actual VIN numbers & letters at the base look original to me. Here's a photo of my VIN plate -- my 3100 was built in Oakland in 1950 too, and the spacing in the actual VIN numbers at the base looks identical.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/nuqOOOqPz8YzLoIjvuANXS5gUOnkvy4zzcbIWgQD__A?feat=directlink
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#721884 - Thu Feb 17 2011 02:02 PM Re: This can't be the correct VIN plate, can it? [Re: nrdesieyes]
nrdesieyes Offline
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
It's almost as if they sanded off all the printed lettering off the original plate - maybe by mistake? - and then stamped in all that other information on there to try to keep the VIN plate looking legitimate to those who don't know better.
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