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#589505 - Tue Nov 03 2009 08:07 PM BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's
Dan in Pasadena Offline
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I am pretty ticked off and I have decided not to buy from them again.

I bought a full set of gauges from them about a month ago to install in my '46 while it is being re-wired. I also bought a billet dash panel for the Speedo and Tach, and a below-dash panel for the fuel, volts, water and oil gauges.

After about a week, the guy doing the electrical work called to tell me the panel was about .010 too large and would not fit in the stock dash opening. The dash has no bondo etc, so the panel is just a bit too big to fit. I called Chev's. At first I got the usual, "...we sell lots of these and they have all fit..." Uh huh, ok but the one you sent me doesn't so I need one that does. I got them to agree to send me one and I was told it would get to me last Thurs or Fri...it got there Monday. Okay fine, but it was the WRONG PART. They sent one different than the one I bought. I called them and they tell me they will send another...so another week. No offer to send it overnight, nothing. I tell them these parts have delayed me about 2 weeks. They offer to refund my money. I tell them I can't do that, the gauges are already wired in for this panel and the other are already installed. They tell me again they can only refund my money. I ask if they will refund me the cost of having the .010 milled off. Again, they can only refund me my money. Screw them, I will have the panel milled, pay for it and not buy from this supplier again.

Is this customer service? Am I being unreasonable to expect a part that fits, prompt replacement of one that does not, or a correct part when they send a replacement? A different attitude that shows some concern for their customer?
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#589516 - Tue Nov 03 2009 08:33 PM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Dan in Pasadena]
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Originally Posted By: Dan in Pasadena
....Is this customer service? Am I being unreasonable to expect a part that fits, prompt replacement of one that does not, or a correct part when they send a replacement? A different attitude that shows some concern for their customer?


May not have been as smooth a transaction as you think it should be, but we don't have both sides of the story either.

I don't see how they can account for any and all manufacturing variances and tolerances on a truck that was built over 60 years ago.

If it's only 0.010" (less than the thickness of three pieces of paper) that could be the paint on the dash... If you test fit it before paint, which you should do with all new and probably all used parts too, you could have easily adjusted the fit with a sander.

I think in this case you should have resolved the fit no questions asked, or if you had to say anything a simple notification "hey, this thing was 0.010" oversize, but I made it fit no problem, thought you might want to know for the next guy"

I find that if I, the customer, can be helpful, courteous, and patient, the vendor/service provider will be the same, if not more so.

So yes, I think a different attitude may be helpful.

Grigg
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#589518 - Tue Nov 03 2009 08:35 PM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Grigg]
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#589550 - Tue Nov 03 2009 09:16 PM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Old Dollar]
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Sounds to me like they were trying to correct the problem.
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#589554 - Tue Nov 03 2009 09:21 PM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Old Dollar]
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.... and the manufacturing varied back in 1946... and with that in mind I would say that the actual dash opening was made big enough to accommodate varies of a wide range back then. THe plant didn't want things like this holding up the assembly line.

I have bought LOTS of parts from LOTS of vendors over the past 15-20 years and have run into this problem he mentions countless times. I complained and got more crap sent to me...more than once.
On a couple ocassions the vendors told me "thats the best we can get from our supplier" and they REFUNDED my money and sometimes even told me to keep what they sent. I am still doing business with those guys......

BUT.. I have not bought anything from Chevs of the 40's for over 10 years and do not plan to....... I'll let you guess why as I do not want to "vendor bash". However I will tell you that there are vendors out there that would definitely make it right....One such instance was not long ago. I had a problem and the vendor checked his stock. All his stock was the same way...bad. They told me if I could use the part or make it work to keep the part and use it and they would give me a 50% refund. Now to me that is customer service and they keep getting my orders and I keep getting good service.


Edited by Achipmunk (Tue Nov 03 2009 09:24 PM)
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#589594 - Tue Nov 03 2009 10:27 PM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Grigg]
Dan in Pasadena Offline
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Loc: Pasadena, CA


Originally Posted By: Grigg
Originally Posted By: Dan in Pasadena
....Is this customer service? Am I being unreasonable to expect a part that fits, prompt replacement of one that does not, or a correct part when they send a replacement? A different attitude that shows some concern for their customer?


May not have been as smooth a transaction as you think it should be, but we don't have both sides of the story either.

I don't see how they can account for any and all manufacturing variances and tolerances on a truck that was built over 60 years ago.

If it's only 0.010" (less than the thickness of three pieces of paper) that could be the paint on the dash... If you test fit it before paint, which you should do with all new and probably all used parts too, you could have easily adjusted the fit with a sander.

I think in this case you should have resolved the fit no questions asked, or if you had to say anything a simple notification "hey, this thing was 0.010" oversize, but I made it fit no problem, thought you might want to know for the next guy"

I find that if I, the customer, can be helpful, courteous, and patient, the vendor/service provider will be the same, if not more so.

So yes, I think a different attitude may be helpful.

Grigg


I was completely understanding (at first) and patient enough to wait for the replacement part with ordinary shipping. I WOULD have been willing to wait for a SECOND replacement part to come if it would have been offered, it was not. The atitude was that it was my problem. As for being "helpful, courteous and patient" I think you're assuming /i was not I also think it is in the seller's best interest to exhibit those qualities, not the buyer's responsibility. I can go to another vendor. The vendor is supposed to care if I do.

By the way, we verified that paint nor body filler was an issue. They simply provided a poor fitting part.

I started this thread to give a head's up to others here who might buy from Chev's of the 40's in good faith as I did. As for both sides of the story? Pretty much sounds to me like you;re assuming I am lying or at least misrepresenting...who di you say you work for?
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#589645 - Wed Nov 04 2009 06:25 AM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Dan in Pasadena]
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...who di you say you work for? nono

There are two possibilities:

1. The part is the wrong size and would not fit any truck of your year.

2. The part is the right size and the opening in your dash is too small.

The vendor sent you a second part and it did not fit?

I'd try another vendor for the part. I'd try to get the first vendor to pay return shipping.

If someone else would report success or failure with this part (from this vendor or another vendor), there would be more of a basis for making additional speculation regarding the part and/or your truck.

I have ordered from Chevs of the 40s several times and have received good quality and service. When I purchased the wrong part, they readily took it back for full refund; and, if it was their mistake (rarely), they paid the shipping.
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#589667 - Wed Nov 04 2009 08:35 AM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: tclederman]
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I've had mixed results dealing with Chevs. I've gotten good parts and not so good parts. I've also gotten the "we sell a lot of them and don't get complaints" line from them. I can only assume, if that is correct, that most folks realize repop parts made by the communist country across the pond don't fit well and are ready to "make" them fit. ohwell
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#589674 - Wed Nov 04 2009 09:29 AM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: Tiny]
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One thing, you can't insert your urgent schedule in trying to resolve a problem like this. Don't plan on doing the assembly until you have everything in your hand and it has been checked for fit.
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#589684 - Wed Nov 04 2009 10:14 AM Re: BAD Customer Service - Chev's of the 40's [Re: truckernix]
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"Too big" is usually not a problem. Most of the custom parts I use in my gunsmithing business come to me just a bit oversize- - - -that's where the "smith" part comes in. Anybody can install a drop-in part. A mechanic, as opposed to a parts-swapper, should be able to do a reasonable amount of fitting, especially if he's dealing with a non-stock part like a billet assewmbly. It could have been too small and left an unsightly gap, and you would have a legitimate reason to complain!
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